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Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?

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    eurohiker
    last edited by eurohiker 6 Jun 2021, 22:02 6 Jun 2021, 21:08

    We just found out a couple days ago that Fossil will not update any of their existing WearOS watches to 3.0. Fossil owners will have to buy Fossil 6gen smartwatch.

    I “was” pretty sure that every watch was able to/getting WearOS 3.0 but after seeing Fossil’s move i’m not so sure.

    Does anyone know if Suunto 7 will get it?

    Please be transparent ASAP Suunto.

    Phone: S22 Ultra, Android 12
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      isazi Moderator @eurohiker
      last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:30

      @eurohiker I don’t know about Suunto, but yeah this WearOS 3.0 seems like quite the rework, and it needs a coprocessor apparently, so may not be trivial to port it to old watches.

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        eurohiker @isazi
        last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:34

        @isazi i would be really upset if Suunto 7 didn’t get it after having 6 defects including my current one being an altitude doubling defect. I would definitely drop Suunto entirely… It’s not like it’s a cheap chinese smartwatch.

        Phone: S22 Ultra, Android 12
        Watch: Suunto 7
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          isazi Moderator @eurohiker
          last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:36

          @eurohiker you know that if Google decides the chipset on the S7 is not supported anymore, Suunto cannot do anything, right? 🙂
          Anyway, the S7 has a coprocessor so chances are it’ll get it (according to my wild guessing).

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            eurohiker @isazi
            last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:38

            @isazi 🤞

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              isazi Moderator
              last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:46

              An article from The Verge, it doesn’t say much.

              https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/6/22521256/fossil-not-upgrade-existing-watches-wear-os-google-android

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                eurohiker @isazi
                last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:50

                @isazi I have a feeling that fossil is doing what most chinese companies do by trying to sell hardware vs updating the software.

                I just found it alarming/odd that fossil is going that route because they have been pretty good with their updates.

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                  Jeremiah Dudek
                  last edited by 6 Jun 2021, 21:51

                  I have a Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 also which has more current hardware and Samsung specifically said their watches will not be able to get the upgrade. Considering they would know better than anyone at this point and the fact that the 3100 processor is even more dated I don’t see it happening.

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                    eurohiker @Jeremiah Dudek
                    last edited by eurohiker 6 Jun 2021, 21:55 6 Jun 2021, 21:53

                    @jeremiah-dudek that samsung exynos chip was designed to run Tizen so that’s not a very good indicator. I’m sure it’s missing some components needed to switch it to android.

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                      Randy Penn @eurohiker
                      last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 06:12

                      @eurohiker Yes, and the “more current hardware” in the GW3 is an outdated 3-year-old Exynos processor. I’m very interested to see how the new hardware Samsung puts in the GW4 holds up to the battery guzzling WearOS with that tiny battery.

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                        pilleus @eurohiker
                        last edited by pilleus 6 Jul 2021, 06:56 7 Jun 2021, 06:55

                        @eurohiker said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

                        samsung exynos chip was designed to run Tizen

                        … but is running in Casio’s new GSW-H1000 with WearOS. And with no difference in the performance. It is smooth and without any lags.

                        And both companies would be able to add a co-processor for the needs of the new Wear. Or a second display to save battery.

                        Who knows … 🤙

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                          A Former User @eurohiker
                          last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 19:59

                          @eurohiker Sadly, I feel Google is going Windows Phone route with Wear OS.

                          Just like Microsoft cut loose their entire dwindling install base after WP 7.8 and required a new hardware to run 8.0, Google’s requirement of new hardware for 3.0 update – if this comes to pass – will be the last nail in coffin of the platform, with Samsung playing quasi Nokia of smartwatches. Coupled with Fitbit abandoning their FitbitOS on smartwatches, it’s a double whammy. Wear OS becomes a watch OS for Samsung, who effectively outsourced it’s development to Google.

                          I’m not sure offline Spotify and YouTube music will help much.

                          My first gen Apple Watch lasted a good 4-5 years and received many years of OS upgrades. Who’d want to pay more than $200 for a Wear OS smartwatch that’s get dropped after a year or two?

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                            Claudiu79
                            last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 20:36

                            Sunnto recently released the Sunnto 7 Titanium so not updating their watches to Wear OS 3 on these … would be a bad move for the company… A lot of disappointed / angry customers. I hope that they’ve already figured it out how to keep updating these watches for at least 2 years… and since the hardware is similar to the regular Suunto 7s (as I have)… well… 🙂 or maybe I’m just day dreaming.

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                              isazi Moderator @Claudiu79
                              last edited by 7 Jun 2021, 21:41

                              @claudiu79 I say chances Suunto is abandoning the S7 are extremely low.

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                                Guillermo Ortega Cerro @isazi
                                last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 12:52

                                @isazi 🤞 🤞 🤞

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                                  Guillermo Ortega Cerro @isazi
                                  last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 12:55

                                  @isazi El S7 siempre ha sido una apuesta arriesgada. Esperemos que siga teniendo desarrollo porque recorrido tiene bastante, aún se echan en falta algunas cositas 😊

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                                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @isazi
                                    last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 13:00

                                    @isazi
                                    Seems as though there is a bit of change around the original fossil comment, as some members of the reddit wear os community have contacted them to get a more “clarifying” response that they are still looking into it. So sounds a bit disjointed at the moment

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                      last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 13:01

                                      keep in mind that there is a difference on updating a watch and updating the OS system of the watch.

                                      Updating the OS to a new Major version is for sure not little work

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                                        Aleksander H Bronze Member @Jamie BG
                                        last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 13:07

                                        The verge wrote that Fossil doesn’t plan to upgrade its existing watches to the new Wear OS citing a cnet article. I read the cnet article and could find no such comment. Don’t understand how the verge could make such a claim based on what I read.

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
                                          last edited by 8 Jun 2021, 13:11

                                          @aleksander-h it says it there

                                          As far as budget options for these next-wave watches, McKelvey sees the most likely outcome being previous-year models eventually being discounted, much like Apple’s watch lineup tiers. Existing Fossil Google Wear watches won’t be upgradable to the new Wear OS software platform.

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