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    Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?

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      eurohiker @isazi
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      @isazi I have a feeling that fossil is doing what most chinese companies do by trying to sell hardware vs updating the software.

      I just found it alarming/odd that fossil is going that route because they have been pretty good with their updates.

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        Jeremiah Dudek
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        I have a Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 also which has more current hardware and Samsung specifically said their watches will not be able to get the upgrade. Considering they would know better than anyone at this point and the fact that the 3100 processor is even more dated I don’t see it happening.

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          eurohiker @Jeremiah Dudek
          last edited by eurohiker

          @jeremiah-dudek that samsung exynos chip was designed to run Tizen so that’s not a very good indicator. I’m sure it’s missing some components needed to switch it to android.

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            Randy Penn @eurohiker
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            @eurohiker Yes, and the “more current hardware” in the GW3 is an outdated 3-year-old Exynos processor. I’m very interested to see how the new hardware Samsung puts in the GW4 holds up to the battery guzzling WearOS with that tiny battery.

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              pilleus @eurohiker
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              @eurohiker said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

              samsung exynos chip was designed to run Tizen

              … but is running in Casio’s new GSW-H1000 with WearOS. And with no difference in the performance. It is smooth and without any lags.

              And both companies would be able to add a co-processor for the needs of the new Wear. Or a second display to save battery.

              Who knows … 🤙

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                A Former User @eurohiker
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                @eurohiker Sadly, I feel Google is going Windows Phone route with Wear OS.

                Just like Microsoft cut loose their entire dwindling install base after WP 7.8 and required a new hardware to run 8.0, Google’s requirement of new hardware for 3.0 update – if this comes to pass – will be the last nail in coffin of the platform, with Samsung playing quasi Nokia of smartwatches. Coupled with Fitbit abandoning their FitbitOS on smartwatches, it’s a double whammy. Wear OS becomes a watch OS for Samsung, who effectively outsourced it’s development to Google.

                I’m not sure offline Spotify and YouTube music will help much.

                My first gen Apple Watch lasted a good 4-5 years and received many years of OS upgrades. Who’d want to pay more than $200 for a Wear OS smartwatch that’s get dropped after a year or two?

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                  Sunnto recently released the Sunnto 7 Titanium so not updating their watches to Wear OS 3 on these … would be a bad move for the company… A lot of disappointed / angry customers. I hope that they’ve already figured it out how to keep updating these watches for at least 2 years… and since the hardware is similar to the regular Suunto 7s (as I have)… well… 🙂 or maybe I’m just day dreaming.

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                    isazi Moderator @Claudiu79
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                    @claudiu79 I say chances Suunto is abandoning the S7 are extremely low.

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                      Guillermo Ortega Cerro @isazi
                      last edited by

                      @isazi 🤞 🤞 🤞

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                        Guillermo Ortega Cerro @isazi
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                        @isazi El S7 siempre ha sido una apuesta arriesgada. Esperemos que siga teniendo desarrollo porque recorrido tiene bastante, aún se echan en falta algunas cositas 😊

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                          Jamie BG Bronze Member @isazi
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                          @isazi
                          Seems as though there is a bit of change around the original fossil comment, as some members of the reddit wear os community have contacted them to get a more “clarifying” response that they are still looking into it. So sounds a bit disjointed at the moment

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                            keep in mind that there is a difference on updating a watch and updating the OS system of the watch.

                            Updating the OS to a new Major version is for sure not little work

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                              Aleksander H Bronze Member @Jamie BG
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                              The verge wrote that Fossil doesn’t plan to upgrade its existing watches to the new Wear OS citing a cnet article. I read the cnet article and could find no such comment. Don’t understand how the verge could make such a claim based on what I read.

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
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                                @aleksander-h it says it there

                                As far as budget options for these next-wave watches, McKelvey sees the most likely outcome being previous-year models eventually being discounted, much like Apple’s watch lineup tiers. Existing Fossil Google Wear watches won’t be upgradable to the new Wear OS software platform.

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                                  Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

                                  As far as budget options for these next-wave watches, McKelvey sees the most likely outcome being previous-year models eventually being discounted, much like Apple’s watch lineup tiers. Existing Fossil Google Wear watches won’t be upgradable to the new Wear OS software platform.

                                  Wow. I’m blind. I read that article twice!

                                  I’m going to retreat now and hide for about a week until this is forgotten 😆

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
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                                    @aleksander-h I did 3 times then searched for Wear OS and read again 😛

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
                                      last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

                                      @aleksander-h also

                                      https://9to5google.com/2021/05/18/wear-os-revamp-current-models/

                                      To my understanding it looks like Google is not done with the new WearOS stuff. I suspect that the wearOS will come with some Google watch and then later on be more open and adopted.

                                      We are at 2021 and they promoted (again) offline music. That was there since 2014 (and they took it away)

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                                        Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

                                        I suspect that the wearOS will come with some Google watch and then later on be more

                                        Yeah, I’m guessing a joint launch of Samsung and Google watches (or at least very close to each other).

                                        Whatever happens, at least we should all benefit from Spotify and YouTube Music getting offline music. Honestly, that was the most important thing announced for me. Shame there was no similar announcement for Google Podcast.

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                                          pilleus
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                                          I think Samsung will adapt Wear to the existing hardware and use the own processor (Exynos). Specs of the battery capacity are given and there is no improvement. Looks like the usage of the existing hardware.

                                          The other company using not a Qualcomm processor is Casio (Exynos processor in the GSW-H1000 with exynos kernel).

                                          Let’s see … 🕶

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                                            eurohiker @Aleksander H
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                                            @aleksander-h doesn’t everyone that “really” wants spotify offline have it already?
                                            All you need to do is sideload spotify lite via XDA. There’s no compromise, the media button works like it’s running the normal wear spotify app.

                                            I go on my runs without my phone (offline map of my area), bluetooth headphone connected to the watch, playing spotify offline

                                            Sidenote: i “forget” the headphones after every run, then re-pair them because there is no bluetooth priority feature on Android. I also turn off phone bluetooth before I pair them.
                                            Sounds like a lot but it feels automatic and done within a minute or 2.

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