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    Oliver_Z
    last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 20:00

    Re: Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands

    Actually I have a Problem with the ascent/descent measurements. Look:

    Screenshot_20210621-215804.png

    About 1000 m too much!

    How could that Happen?

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      freeheeler @Oliver_Z
      last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 20:08

      @oliver-zamberger
      you can search for it in this forum… long story short: sensor holes were most likely covered with a sleeve or too tight strap and it sealed off on sweaty skin.
      if you check the details of the alti graph you’ll notice several dips (down spikes) that accumulate to 1’000m more.
      Could you share a screenshot of the graph?

      living sideways

      O 1 Reply Last reply 22 Jun 2021, 15:38 Reply Quote 1
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        surfboomerang @Oliver_Z
        last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 20:11

        @oliver-zamberger I don’t know if it’s correct for this case, but ascent and descent are the sum of meters you climbed and descended during your activity. Highest and lowest point are the min and max altitude,

        For example if you start at 100m and climb to 150m, then descend to 130m and then climb to 200m your values will be like this:

        Min altitude: 100m
        Max altitude 200m
        Ascend: 120m
        Descend: 20m

        @all Correct me if I’m mistaken

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          sartoric Moderator @surfboomerang
          last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 21:33

          @surfboomerang
          You’re correct

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            sartoric Moderator @Oliver_Z
            last edited by sartoric 21 Jun 2021, 21:36

            @oliver-zamberger
            Just a note
            You don’t need to create a new discussion, you can reply to the original one even if it’s old.

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            O 1 Reply Last reply 22 Jun 2021, 15:42 Reply Quote 0
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              Oliver_Z @freeheeler
              last edited by 22 Jun 2021, 15:38

              @freeheeler thanks for your reply. So here is a Screenshot

              Screenshot_20210622-173427.png

              I know what you. The only Thing is, it never happened to me before. IT always worked fine. Also if th watch was partly covered too. I guess this is since last Firmware Update.

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                Oliver_Z @sartoric
                last edited by 22 Jun 2021, 15:42

                @sartoric sorry about that. I’m New in this forum and thought I replied to an existing discussion… Didn’t want to create a New one

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                  Oliver_Z @surfboomerang
                  last edited by 22 Jun 2021, 15:45

                  @surfboomerang Sure, I know what you mean… Every ascent and descent will be summed up. But like in my case it’s really too much 🤔

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oliver_Z
                    last edited by 22 Jun 2021, 16:03

                    @oliver-zamberger looks like the barometer had water in

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                    O 1 Reply Last reply 24 Jun 2021, 16:26 Reply Quote 1
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                      Oliver_Z @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 24 Jun 2021, 16:26

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos that wasn’t a Problem since the läßt Update. This is an expensive multisport watch and some sweat shouldn’t influence the Barometer. 🤔

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                        sartoric Moderator @Oliver_Z
                        last edited by 24 Jun 2021, 16:35

                        @oliver-zamberger
                        Well … that’s hard due to physical limitation 😁

                        It’s not easy to fill it with water, but it can happen

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                          Oliver_Z @sartoric
                          last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 14:58

                          @sartoric and today it happened again. The Barometer Was always free from sweat and not covered with anything. Descending but then suddenly the watch added about 20 m to ascend. So after the hike more than 100 m altitude (ascent/descent) are wrong. And Not any answer from the Support. That’s really annoying!

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                            isazi Moderator @Oliver_Z
                            last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 15:47

                            @oliver-zamberger did you try cleaning the baro hole? Warm water, a soft brush.

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                              freeheeler @Oliver_Z
                              last edited by freeheeler 27 Jun 2021, 16:42

                              @oliver-zamberger
                              and a link to the activity to check the graph, please… otherwise it’s just wild guessing for us 😉

                              living sideways

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                                Oliver_Z @freeheeler
                                last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 10:27

                                @freeheeler I’m thankful for any solutions/help

                                So here is the link

                                https://www.suunto.com/move/oliverzamberger/60cdf605891a7f7d02f03c1d

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                                  surfboomerang @Oliver_Z
                                  last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 11:02

                                  @oliver-zamberger Was the wach protected by a sleeve? In other words, could wind be a factor in this situation?

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Oliver_Z
                                    last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 14:51

                                    @oliver-zamberger Here is an example from this weekend. I was wearing an S9P on my left wrist and an S9baroTi model on my right wrist. I was carrying a handheld water bottle. On my right wrist by carrying the bottle my skin was blocking the baro hole on the S9bTi. Not the jagged altitude profile AND note the altitude is 2-fold off. There are two readings for the baro as I stopped the watch a few minutes into the run as it did not connect to the smartsensor.
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                                      Oliver_Z @surfboomerang
                                      last edited by Oliver_Z 28 Jun 2021, 15:13

                                      @surfboomerang the watch wasn’t covered by anything. So the baro sensor was always free. Also there wasn’t really any Wind… But if Wind influences the Barometer this much to deliver wrong data, why it ever integrated into the watch🤔

                                      Is there any possibility to deactivate the Barometer?

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                                        Oliver_Z @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by Oliver_Z 28 Jun 2021, 15:16

                                        @brad_olwin i can See. It’s totally clear, that the the altitude can’t be 100% correct. But it isn’t ok, when it’s several 100 m incorrect.

                                        And this appears to Happen most when ascending 🤔

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                                          surfboomerang @Oliver_Z
                                          last edited by surfboomerang 28 Jun 2021, 15:47

                                          @oliver-zamberger Wind does have an effect on pressure and altitude, but I don’t know to what extent.

                                          This is data from a random windsurf session on flat water:
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                                          In the old Movescount days there was an option to select how pressure changes should be interpreted by the watch, but that option has been removed in SA unfortunately.

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