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    • Patrick LöfflerP Offline
      Patrick Löffler Silver Members @Jamie BG
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      @jamie-bg Thank you very much for your answer. I am currently constantly switching between Garmin Forerunner 945 LTE, Suunto 9 Peak and Polar Vantage V2. Just a feeling, the Polar seems to have the edge on the other two concerning sleep tracking. But I love to wear the S9P so much I try to find proof that it gives me also a valuable sleep and body resource tracking.

      Apple Watch Ultra (currently on my wrist)
      Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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      • Jamie BGJ Offline
        Jamie BG Bronze Member @Patrick Löffler
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        @patrick-löffler 945 uses the new firstbeat tracking (same as fenix & suunto 7), and seems to match pretty well. Not sure what sleep tracking the S9 is using.

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          ChrisA Platinum Member @Patrick Löffler
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          @patrick-löffler I also compared Vantage against S9P (wearing both at night) because Polar sleep tracking was/is always spot on how I feel and sleep and also the awake times. Last seven days the S9P missed an hour of sleep on Monday and Tuesday (seeing me awake too early) and often counts too much awake time during the night

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          So in my eyes there’s room for improvement on the S9P side. I would love to have the “are you awake” question that’s on the S7 (and on all polar models btw) as an easy way to have the exact wake up time…

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ChrisA
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            @chrisa could you broaden the sleep times and check how it goes ?

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            • Patrick LöfflerP Offline
              Patrick Löffler Silver Members @ChrisA
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              @chrisa Thanks. That is a really good comparison. Which of the two watches do you enjoy more? And in your experience will Suunto be capable and motivated to improve the sleep tracking? Would be awesome if they would. And yes the “are you awake” question is super simple and effective. For me out of 945LTE, Vantage V2 and S9P, I enjoy the S9P currently most.

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              Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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                ChrisA Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Will do and report back 😀

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                  ChrisA Platinum Member @Patrick Löffler
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                  @patrick-löffler I really also like Polars webapp - which is hands down the best and I think their devices like the Vantage are great too - very developed and sophisticated. But I dislike their policy of not updating two year old devices and also that they lack the navigation and waypoint features, but if one is looking for a solid sportswatch Polar sure is a good choice…

                  I really tried a lot of brands (Coros, Polar Garmin…) but in the end I really love Suunto and the S9P. Suunto’s ease of use, the built quality and the Suunto app which evolves more and more and how easy you create routes and POI, or the heatmaps, or the how I can analyse all the data … etc.

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                    A Former User @ChrisA
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                    Would really like to understand what triggered the watch to say I only went to sleep at this time.
                    I was lying down of bed (trying to sleep) without moving at least from 22h. I don’t recall of moving…
                    Funny that on last posts where I said I was on video call I moved a lot, changed position , turn around, etc and the watch said I was sleeping.
                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos this start/end of sleep is connected with algorithm of sleep or just accelerometer?
                    Can’t stop thinking it is related to accelerometer. The same way when we move the watch it doesn’t trigger the light (I kinda need to shake it), I believe for start/end it is kinda the same.
                    Let me know what you think.

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                      @andré-faria it uses the accel.

                      What are your sleep times ?

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                        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Sleep Tracking:

                        @andré-faria it uses the accel.

                        What are your sleep times ?

                        On the watch?
                        22h to 08h

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                        • Jamie BGJ Offline
                          Jamie BG Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos - what sleep tracking are the S9B & S9P using? Suunto? Latest first beat? something else?

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                            @andré-faria set it much earlier. 21 .

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Jamie BG
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                              @jamie-bg Suunto in house

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                                Jamie BG Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I have no experience of the suunto in house sleep tracking, but my experience with the firstbeat one is very good on a couple of watches - any expectation that Suunto would look to roll that out to other watches in the suunto line?

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Jamie BG
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                                  @jamie-bg I dont know atm

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                                    A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Sleep Tracking:

                                    @andré-faria set it much earlier. 21 .

                                    Humm, ok Will try it.
                                    Just for comparison. Garmin Fr45 nailed this pretty well. Don’t know algorithm it used. If you want/need some data I can provide it.
                                    Also if you feel useful that I/other users share the info via app feedback or support let me/us know.

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                                    • DMytroD Offline
                                      DMytro @Jamie BG
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                                      @jamie-bg in my opinion if quality of both algorithms is at least somewhat comparable, it would be better to keep working on in-house algorithm rather than using a black box from competitor company.
                                      My experience with s9 sleep tracking was decent enough too.

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                                        Patrick Löffler Silver Members @DMytro
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                                        @dmytro For me as well. The Garmin watches always think I am already asleep while I am still reading. The S9P is much better in this regard. However you do it Suunto, please keep doing it. 🙂 Just as I already said on my wish list: Nightly HRV would be on top of it.

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                                        • DMytroD Offline
                                          DMytro @Patrick Löffler
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                                          @patrick-löffler rem sleep would also be nice.

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                                            @andré-faria said in Sleep Tracking:

                                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Sleep Tracking:

                                            @andré-faria set it much earlier. 21 .

                                            Humm, ok Will try it.
                                            Just for comparison. Garmin Fr45 nailed this pretty well. Don’t know algorithm it used. If you want/need some data I can provide it.
                                            Also if you feel useful that I/other users share the info via app feedback or support let me/us know.

                                            Yesterday my day was different , had to do some stuff on computer and walk around till 22 something.
                                            Went to sleep at 23. Even reboot the watch before to see if it won’t take into account any starting before that.
                                            Apparently didn’t work…or I should read that sleeping starting time is 21h+2h awake?

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