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UTMB file not synchronizing with App

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    Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @paulosgomes
    last edited by 3 Sept 2021, 17:32

    @paulosgomes I am not sure but try the different phone - maybe iOS for change? When I had similar issues and connected the watch to some different phone (it was also with different OS but it probably doesn’t play a role) it synced a lot of activities again. Even those originally marked as synced (no duplicates afterwards). I don’t know the underlying mechanism but it did the job for me and recovered seemingly lost activity.

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      paulosgomes @Zdeněk Hruška
      last edited by paulosgomes 9 Jul 2021, 11:13 7 Sept 2021, 10:22

      @zdeněk-hruška Tried with IOS and didn’t sinc the activity. It’s lost forever one of the most important races of my life… It’s a pitty Suunto, not the first time with big activities, mainly the reason I’ve bought the watch. There should be a way to retrieve manually this activities.

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        Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @paulosgomes
        last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 12:43

        @paulosgomes I am so sorry to hear that. @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos don’t you have some other trick in your sleeve? Can the activity really be lost like this in the new Suunto app ecosystem?

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
          last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 13:13

          Step 1

          Go to the watch logbook and make sure the activity has charts. If it doesn’t it means that it has been rolled over. that happens because the memory (disk) of the watch is full and in order to make space for new ones it compresses that one to minimal non syncable data.

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            paulosgomes @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 13:21

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I confirm it has no charts, only numbers.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @paulosgomes
              last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 13:22

              @paulosgomes then its a lost case. It got rolled over.

              This is sad tbh. I ll make a remark about this to the management

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                DMytro @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 13:35

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos maybe a message ‘full memory’ before an activity could be of help? Since user might not know about cyclic memory at all.

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                  Mff73 @DMytro
                  last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 14:16

                  @dmytro said in UTMB file not synchronizing with App:

                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos maybe a message ‘full memory’ before an activity could be of help? Since user might not know about cyclic memory at all.

                  good idea, but, finally, memory is almost always full, no ? each new workout delete oldest one (or more) after a certain amount of activities.
                  So each new activity will say : “memory full” ? Why not, but little anoying (for normal use cases).

                  @paulosgomes , sorry you lost this UTMB data.

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                    paulosgomes @Mff73
                    last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 14:25

                    @mff73 I had a lot of activities saved and synced, it would be logical to delete the synced ones. this error should happen only when there is no synced activities left. Something must went wrong, I did a 54 hours workout before that was synced with no troubles, with the same definitions.

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                      Mff73 @paulosgomes
                      last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 14:40

                      @paulosgomes
                      Maybe, just maybe, the first time the sync with the app was long enough or blocked or whatever, and this UTMB did not sync, but was still complete on your watch --> syncable again.
                      But you wrote
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                      Maybe the next small activity needed place to be stored, and then “erased”/“simplified” the UTMB one.
                      Just supposition --> in this case, yes, watch could have warned :“hey, you need place to save the next activity, please sync, you may loose xxx activities”.

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                        DMytro @Mff73
                        last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 16:16

                        @mff73 ok, you’re right. How about this:
                        If the last activity is going to be rolled over -> display the message

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                          paulosgomes @Mff73
                          last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 10:24

                          @mff73 I tried to sync before the new activity, with no success. Doesn’t make sense the small activity simplify the utmb, because there were a lot of older activities already synced and ready to be deleted, as usually happens

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                            dombo Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 10:34

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I have another question, which could help also other users:

                            “roll over” of old activities is only caused by recording new activity? or it can be caused also because of syncing new route or for example storing 24/7 data?

                            thanks

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @dombo
                              last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 10:47

                              @dombo I assume routes are very small.

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