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    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @isazi
    last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 09:04

    @isazi
    It all started with the 2.16.26 update in June/ July. The old software worked fine and I didn’t change anything.
    I give the hard reset a try and reinstall the firmware.

    Thanks!

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      TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @DMytro
      last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 09:05

      @dmytro
      No worries:

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        Djordje S Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
        last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 09:42

        @theguyfromthesummit I completely agree. With latest update Ive noticed too that S9 was more reliable and accurate with previous firmware.

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          Jamie BG Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 09:50

          @łukasz-szmigiel
          Absolutely agree with Lukasz on this.
          Haven noticed this on the S7 and on the F6xPS. I noticed sometimes my distances would be slightly out and when I check my post activity maps I noticed that I the track didn’t always have me starting at the same place. So the next time I ran I waited for the affirmation of good GPS fix, and then I went into the maps. 80% of the time your icon is on your position, but the other 20% of the time it wasn’t (was within 100m), and giving that extra bit of time 30s-60s was always enough time for it the position fix to be on your exact spot.

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @Jamie BG
            last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 10:03

            @jamie-bg I’ve seen this issue of “wait a little bit longer” on the forum that I really think a new way of informing users of GPS fix quality should be developed. Either change the threshold when the watch responds with green arrow or make an intermediate phase, like “no fix” - “ok fix” - “good fix”. You can start the workout with “ok fix” and it’ll most probably get better during first 15 minutes of workout but you can wait a little longer for it to stabilize and be good from the start.

            S9PP 2.40.38

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              Djordje S Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 11:43

              @łukasz-szmigiel Per my opinion there is a space for improvement in S9 line firmware/features in terms of stability/accuracy. For now I would be satisifed if exisitng one could be “stabilsed” 🙂

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                Jamie BG Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 15:07

                @łukasz-szmigiel - problem with that is people then complain that it takes too long to get a fix…In most cases on average most people don’t overly get worried with a 100m or so difference.

                Can’t win either way - either complain too long - or complain not accurate enough…

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                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Jamie BG
                  last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 15:28

                  @jamie-bg you can. Redesign slightly the GPS icon. Make it filled as it is right now for “ok fix” and add a minuscule detail for “good fix”.

                  Those who don’t care won’t notice and it’ll be backwards compatible but those who see the difference and for whom it matters will know what to look for.

                  But it’ll never get implemented as it’ll take too long to design / develop / test while bringing too little of an improvement and we all know that 😉

                  S9PP 2.40.38

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 15:36

                    @łukasz-szmigiel yup. While I am with you I agree to what you said.

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                      DMytro @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 16:12

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos that’s too bad 😞
                      Would’ve loved such icon.

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                        Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
                        last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 16:19

                        @dmytro It could be done with little effort.Simple colors on existing icon.Red-bad,amber-fair,green-good.

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Djordje S
                          last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 17:46

                          @djordje-s impossible since GPS icon is color coded according to battery mode. I’d go with a small + below the icon or small “OK”. Or maybe double arrow (like a shadow with a +3 px to the right).

                          S9PP 2.40.38

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                            Djordje S Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                            last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 18:51

                            @łukasz-szmigiel that is true but again traffic light system for notification is recognized and easiest for understanding 🙂

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                              Łukasz Szmigiel @Djordje S
                              last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 19:10

                              @djordje-s I agree. But that would deviate too much from original UI in my opinion.

                              S9PP 2.40.38

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                                MiniForklift Platinum Member
                                last edited by MiniForklift 9 Jul 2021, 20:27 7 Sept 2021, 20:26

                                Probably too complicated but it would be useful if the GPS icon could function like a glass getting filled up. What I mean is that with no GPS the icon is just an outline, then as a fix is acquired and the GPS starts coming up to strength the icon starts to fill with colour. Once GPS is locked in and everything is good it’s completely filled and you’re alerted with a beep & vibration (as we currently are)

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                                Hope that makes sense? Like that pic above but obviously with the GPS icon instead of a glass 😳

                                SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                  DMytro @MiniForklift
                                  last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 20:34

                                  @miniforklift that would be cool, but I kinda think that icon is too small for such animation + pixels are not dense enough. For S7 maybe?

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                                    Djordje S Bronze Member @MiniForklift
                                    last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 20:35

                                    @miniforklift also,I would add a notification feature(beep+vibration) in a case of week/lost GPS.

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                                      MiniForklift Platinum Member @DMytro
                                      last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 20:36

                                      @dmytro said in GPS normal?:

                                      @miniforklift that would be cool, but I kinda think that icon is too small for such animation + pixels are not dense enough. For S7 maybe?

                                      An updated larger GPS icon for the S9?..

                                      SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                        MiniForklift Platinum Member @Djordje S
                                        last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 20:38

                                        @djordje-s said in GPS normal?:

                                        @miniforklift also,I would add a notification feature(beep+vibration) in a case of week/lost GPS.

                                        Yes please, that would be great. Maybe even a little cluster of vibrations as it’s easy to miss the single ones when you’re running. If it was a small cluster of vibrations you’d also know exactly what it means without having to even look at your watch 👍

                                        SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                          Łukasz Szmigiel @MiniForklift
                                          last edited by 7 Sept 2021, 20:48

                                          @miniforklift but then… What would you do with such information during the workout? That the signal is weak?

                                          There is an alarm when the signal is lost. At last there was in 2019’s firmware.

                                          S9PP 2.40.38

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