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    • SlaShS Offline
      SlaSh Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
      last edited by SlaSh

      @brad_olwin donโ€™t know, letโ€™s ask my watch ๐Ÿ˜„ watch says 30.4c ๐Ÿ˜„

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        SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos reflection from what? There were no buildings and quite open area for good gps signal.

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
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          @slash said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos reflection from what? There were no buildings and quite open area for good gps signal.

          lake / river

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            SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos even if I am above it 20m and far away 50m? Unbelievable ๐Ÿ™‚

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              Ze Stuart Gold Members @SlaSh
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              @slash only one thing to do: find out which satellites were available to you at the time, and plot their course in relation to your course, and determine if any would have been broadcasting from the right spot for a reflection error.

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
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                @slash said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos even if I am above it 20m and far away 50m? Unbelievable ๐Ÿ™‚

                What @Ze-Stuart said.

                I love these debates. Lets assume it like so:

                The water is a mirror and the satelite sees you from that mirror. The more far away you are the wider the angle thus where the sat is.

                something like so

                \___/

                God damn I am bad in this example.

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                  SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos personally never faced such before near the water ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
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                    @slash said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos personally never faced such before ๐Ÿ™‚

                    I do GPS testing as you know and its the biggest problem. Usually referred to multipath problem

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                      PErhaps this helps

                      test

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                        Ze Stuart Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                        something like so

                        \___/

                        *satellite in space
                        \      .slash and his watch
                         \    /
                          \__/
                        big reflecting pond slash runs around
                        

                        You can tell itโ€™s a busy dayโ€ฆ

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @SlaSh
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                          @slash Since you donโ€™t run:)โ€ฆ when walking my watch generally faces outward or laterally to the side, when running I hold my arms more upright and the watch face is generally pointed to the sky. Would be interesting to see if the track is worse when the watch and arm are closest to the water.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Ze Stuart
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                            @ze-stuart said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                            something like so

                            \___/

                            *satellite in space
                            \      .slash and his watch
                             \    /
                              \__/
                            big reflecting pond slash runs around
                            

                            You can tell itโ€™s a busy dayโ€ฆ

                            dude you made my day โœŒ

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                              sartoric Moderator
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                              Just to ease understanding this โ€ฆ reverse it. In fact itโ€™s your device that see the satellite, not the opposite, and you see the reflected signals carrying data for the other side of the water

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                                SlaSh Platinum Member
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                                Anyway I think glonASS is making such ๐Ÿ™‚ I will turn it off and this wonโ€™t happen again ๐Ÿ™‚ Russians do not make reliable stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  NicolasP @SlaSh
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                                  @slash you should send me your Baro for testing ๐Ÿ˜‰ look what I get with my โ€œlittleโ€ Trainer (ok no Glonass I know):
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                                  My Trainer never let me down ๐Ÿ˜

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @NicolasP
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                                    @nicolasp said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                                    @slash you should send me your Baro for testing ๐Ÿ˜‰ look what I get with my โ€œlittleโ€ Trainer (ok no Glonass I know):
                                    0_1529564133568_Screenshot_20180621-074915_Suunto.jpg

                                    0_1529564145765_Screenshot_20180621-074938_Suunto.jpg

                                    0_1529564174804_Screenshot_20180621-075033_Suunto.jpg

                                    My Trainer never let me down ๐Ÿ˜

                                    Trainer has one of the Best GPS atm in the market. Ok not better than A3P or V800 but I think its just under those

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                                      SlaSh Platinum Member @NicolasP
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                                      @nicolasp now walk that route instead of the running ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        NicolasP @SlaSh
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                                        @slash Iโ€™ll do it and will let you know as interesting to compare the GPS accuracy running vs walking

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                                        • sartoricS Offline
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                                          Letโ€™s say that satellite position is the main factor for that โ€œmirrorโ€ effect

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                                            Luรญs Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Who need Glonass or Galileo when antenna is in right position? That is the reason for excelent results in Spartan Trainer and also Ambit3.

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