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    • DMytroD Offline
      DMytro @MiniForklift
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      @miniforklift Scattering of GPS signal on water surface.

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      • MiniForkliftM Offline
        MiniForklift Platinum Member @DMytro
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        @dmytro said in GPS normal?:

        @miniforklift Scattering of GPS signal on water surface.

        Yes, but running by the pond would have only been for 200-300m of a 2.5km loop. It was pretty bad and generally all over the place for the whole loop as opposed to just that section

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          sartoric Moderator @MiniForklift
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          @MiniForklift
          Did you wait some minutes before starting the activity to let the watch have a good fix?

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            MiniForklift Platinum Member @sartoric
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            @sartoric said in GPS normal?:

            @MiniForklift
            Did you wait some minutes before starting the activity to let the watch have a good fix?

            Race started 8am, I acquired a GPS fix about 10 minutes prior to that

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              MiniForklift Platinum Member @DMytro
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              @dmytro said in GPS normal?:

              @miniforklift Scattering of GPS signal on water surface.

              Here’s a quick screenshot of one of the sections that is furthest away from the lake. FWIW I hugged the same line for each loop with, but you can see from the recording it’s fairly erratic

              Screenshot 2021-09-13 at 12-14-59 Cherry Blossom Marathon ☀️ Run Strava.png

              It even has me out in the middle of a busy road which I was nowhere near at any point during the race

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              • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
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                Just to update this thread.

                I sent my watch to Suunto support (GPS, and the buttons got stuck) and they replaced - besides other things - the GPS unit.

                Good news first: the watch finds a GPS signal much quicker now

                Bad news: the GPS track still looks really nervous and looses signal as often as before.

                So I have no clue what causes this problems.

                I just have to figure out, if this affects my navigation with preset routes etc.

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                • EgikaE Offline
                  Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                  @theguyfromthesummit I think I suggested this before: have you tried GPS only?
                  Could there be anything blocking the watch’s view to the sky? Is possibly the antenna obstructed in any way?
                  Can you try another watch maybe from a friend to check if the issue is an issue of your use case or your watch?

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                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Egika
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                    @egika said in GPS normal?:

                    tch maybe from a friend to check if the issue is an issue of your use case or yo

                    I tried every GPS setting, and the best was GPS+ Galileo

                    I tried different locations and sports types

                    So far I tested:
                    Garmin FR945 and my phone. Both performed better.
                    A friend also uses a 9baro and for him it takes 2-5min to get a GPS signal and the track is comparable with mine.

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                    • isaziI Offline
                      isazi Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                      @theguyfromthesummit said in GPS normal?:

                      I tried every GPS setting, and the best was GPS+ Galileo

                      With the current firmware I would avoid using Galileo. Should be fixed in next firmware.

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                      • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                        TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @isazi
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                        @isazi thanks! will switch to something else for now

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                        • EgikaE Offline
                          Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                          @theguyfromthesummit still this is very strange.
                          GPS fix with up to date AGPS data and clear view of the sky should not take more than a couple of seconds…
                          Even more strange is, that your friend’s watch also takes a long time to get a fix…
                          But the more interesting question is how his tracks compare to yours an the same route.

                          Cheers!

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                          • DMytroD Offline
                            DMytro @isazi
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                            @isazi since when Galileo has issues? I’ve been using it for more than a year now with seemingly mo problems.

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                            • isaziI Offline
                              isazi Moderator @DMytro
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                              @dmytro since 2.18 firmware. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, but I stopped using because of this. It is an acknowledged bug and should be solved with next update.

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                              • DMytroD Offline
                                DMytro @isazi
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                                @isazi ok, got you, thanks for the update!

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                                • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                                  TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Egika
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                                  @egika as soon as we find time to run together I will definetely check it.

                                  For now I wont change anything, I just have to test, how this affects the navigation.

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                                  • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
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                                    Short update:

                                    GPS track now is absurdly bad.
                                    Compass doesn’t work, even after calibrating it the 3rd time this morning.

                                    Anyone else having this issues?

                                    Getting really annoyed by this.

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                                    • Soylent YellowS Offline
                                      Soylent Yellow Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                                      @theguyfromthesummit As a general note for this thread, GPS/Galileo/Beidou reception can vary a lot depending on time and location.

                                      The Japanese government created a nifty tool to show how many GNSS satellites you can see at any time for any place on earth. It’s called GNSS View and can be used (web) or downloaded (for iOS and android) here: https://qzss.go.jp/en/technical/gnssview/index.html

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                                      • isaziI Offline
                                        isazi Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                                        @theguyfromthesummit unfortunately I cannot really help, maybe someone from Suunto can do more 😞
                                        But did you get a new watch, or just your own sent back to you after a check?

                                        Today I went out with 4 watches, including the S9B, and I got a very good track.

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                                        • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @isazi
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                                          @isazi No worries!
                                          I just try to figure out, if others have the same problem.

                                          They just replaced the GPS unit, so I got the same watch basically back.

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                                            Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                                            @theguyfromthesummit with these massive issues you should check back with Suunto’s tech support.
                                            I think hardly anyone here can help you at this stage. Compass and GPS are working normally within their usual range for everyone else.

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