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    MiniForklift Platinum Member @DMytro
    last edited by 13 Sept 2021, 00:20

    @dmytro said in GPS normal?:

    @miniforklift Scattering of GPS signal on water surface.

    Here’s a quick screenshot of one of the sections that is furthest away from the lake. FWIW I hugged the same line for each loop with, but you can see from the recording it’s fairly erratic

    Screenshot 2021-09-13 at 12-14-59 Cherry Blossom Marathon ☀️ Run Strava.png

    It even has me out in the middle of a busy road which I was nowhere near at any point during the race

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      TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
      last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 05:42

      Just to update this thread.

      I sent my watch to Suunto support (GPS, and the buttons got stuck) and they replaced - besides other things - the GPS unit.

      Good news first: the watch finds a GPS signal much quicker now

      Bad news: the GPS track still looks really nervous and looses signal as often as before.

      So I have no clue what causes this problems.

      I just have to figure out, if this affects my navigation with preset routes etc.

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        Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
        last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 06:40

        @theguyfromthesummit I think I suggested this before: have you tried GPS only?
        Could there be anything blocking the watch’s view to the sky? Is possibly the antenna obstructed in any way?
        Can you try another watch maybe from a friend to check if the issue is an issue of your use case or your watch?

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          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Egika
          last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 08:55

          @egika said in GPS normal?:

          tch maybe from a friend to check if the issue is an issue of your use case or yo

          I tried every GPS setting, and the best was GPS+ Galileo

          I tried different locations and sports types

          So far I tested:
          Garmin FR945 and my phone. Both performed better.
          A friend also uses a 9baro and for him it takes 2-5min to get a GPS signal and the track is comparable with mine.

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            isazi Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
            last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:14

            @theguyfromthesummit said in GPS normal?:

            I tried every GPS setting, and the best was GPS+ Galileo

            With the current firmware I would avoid using Galileo. Should be fixed in next firmware.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @isazi
              last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:24

              @isazi thanks! will switch to something else for now

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                Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:36

                @theguyfromthesummit still this is very strange.
                GPS fix with up to date AGPS data and clear view of the sky should not take more than a couple of seconds…
                Even more strange is, that your friend’s watch also takes a long time to get a fix…
                But the more interesting question is how his tracks compare to yours an the same route.

                Cheers!

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                  DMytro @isazi
                  last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:39

                  @isazi since when Galileo has issues? I’ve been using it for more than a year now with seemingly mo problems.

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                    isazi Moderator @DMytro
                    last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:40

                    @dmytro since 2.18 firmware. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, but I stopped using because of this. It is an acknowledged bug and should be solved with next update.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                      DMytro @isazi
                      last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 09:42

                      @isazi ok, got you, thanks for the update!

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                        TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Egika
                        last edited by 29 Oct 2021, 10:15

                        @egika as soon as we find time to run together I will definetely check it.

                        For now I wont change anything, I just have to test, how this affects the navigation.

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                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
                          last edited by 31 Oct 2021, 15:19

                          Short update:

                          GPS track now is absurdly bad.
                          Compass doesn’t work, even after calibrating it the 3rd time this morning.

                          Anyone else having this issues?

                          Getting really annoyed by this.

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                            Soylent Yellow Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                            last edited by 31 Oct 2021, 16:27

                            @theguyfromthesummit As a general note for this thread, GPS/Galileo/Beidou reception can vary a lot depending on time and location.

                            The Japanese government created a nifty tool to show how many GNSS satellites you can see at any time for any place on earth. It’s called GNSS View and can be used (web) or downloaded (for iOS and android) here: https://qzss.go.jp/en/technical/gnssview/index.html

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                              isazi Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                              last edited by 31 Oct 2021, 18:04

                              @theguyfromthesummit unfortunately I cannot really help, maybe someone from Suunto can do more 😞
                              But did you get a new watch, or just your own sent back to you after a check?

                              Today I went out with 4 watches, including the S9B, and I got a very good track.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @isazi
                                last edited by 31 Oct 2021, 19:44

                                @isazi No worries!
                                I just try to figure out, if others have the same problem.

                                They just replaced the GPS unit, so I got the same watch basically back.

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                  last edited by 1 Nov 2021, 07:37

                                  @theguyfromthesummit with these massive issues you should check back with Suunto’s tech support.
                                  I think hardly anyone here can help you at this stage. Compass and GPS are working normally within their usual range for everyone else.

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                                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Egika
                                    last edited by 1 Nov 2021, 16:24

                                    @egika thanks!

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