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Suunto Plus Climb (Hill training) and grade in %

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    pilleus
    last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 09:21

    Watch: S9B
    Activity: Cycling, mountain biking
    Suunto Plus: Climb activated

    While climbing a hill the grade of the uphill is shown in %, the value is spot on, no great delay to the real incline.

    At the top of the hill it will take up to 30 seconds untli the grade of the uphill will decrease number by number in %, the way is flat and no up and down.

    Often there is a way of 500 meters done, before the grade will show the actual grade of 0 % on a flat terrain after the uphill.

    I use a Polar Grit X Pro too, there is a hill splitter available and a very fast and accurate value of the actual grade in %. Much more faster than on my S9B.

    A problem of my watch or of the system?

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @pilleus
      last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 10:46

      @pilleus that’s ok. Vertical speed is averaged from 10s to 30s.

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        pilleus @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 24 Oct 2021, 11:05

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto Plus Climb (Hill training) and grade in %:

        @pilleus that’s ok. Vertical speed is averaged from 10s to 30s.

        An option to adjust the calculation for cycling/mountain biking to a lower average (max. 10 seconds) would be great. For me the average up to 30 seconds is okay for hiking and trailrunning.

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          pilleus @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by pilleus 30 Oct 2021, 17:19

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos

          Climb hill as a S+ feature is behaving identical on S9Baro and S9Peak? Or is there a difference on different watches?

          Thanks for an information!

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            Efejota Bronze Member @pilleus
            last edited by 31 Oct 2021, 09:12

            @pilleus it works the same. And the behavior in slope incline is the same, under my experience. I had the same feeling. It would be a good addition if the vertical speed could be averaged faster when cycling. Not a big deal anyway (excepto in short, very steep slopes)

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              pilleus
              last edited by 29 Dec 2021, 21:52

              Now I could test the climb function of S+ on a S9 Peak and the responsibility is much better than on the S9B. It is fast and in my opinion nearly a little bit nervous. The sport mode was the predefined cycling mode with S+ climb activated.

              Any ideas?

              Thanks!

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                freeheeler @pilleus
                last edited by 10 May 2022, 12:20

                @pilleus
                I’ve used the hill climb today to “play” a little bit with it again. (after using burner frequently…)
                I noticed that the hill climb is very sensitive, especially for cycling in rolling terrain. (ok, I’ve had baro holes covering issue again today, that made it even more nervous…).
                I’ve had autolaps activated and had the idea that either with hill climb the autolaps could be deactivated when activating S+? OR hill climb laps should appear in a different color.
                also the hill climb lap screen shows the same data as autolaps… for hill climb I would expect different values.
                But I think the lap screen itself is controlled by the activity, not by the S+ feature… even it would make sense to be controlled by S+ 🙂

                and more important: I would love to be able to select several S+ features at a time. I would use hill climb AND burner 🙂

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                  suzzlo Moderator @freeheeler
                  last edited by 11 May 2022, 10:47

                  @freeheeler said in Suunto Plus Climb (Hill training) and grade in %:

                  and more important: I would love to be able to select several S+ features at a time. I would use hill climb AND burner

                  Same here!!!
                  At least selecting a Suunto Plus Guide + Suunto Plus Feature!!!

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                    DMytro @suzzlo
                    last edited by 11 May 2022, 10:57

                    @suzzlo wasn’t that already beta tested by suunto and proven to be to difficult for the watch to handle?

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                      isazi Moderator @DMytro
                      last edited by 11 May 2022, 10:58

                      @dmytro that’s probably not coming to current watches, there’s not much resources available right now. But I’m not 100% sure and may be wrong.

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                        DMytro @isazi
                        last edited by 11 May 2022, 11:01

                        @isazi that is what I meant.

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                          suzzlo Moderator @DMytro
                          last edited by 11 May 2022, 19:39

                          @dmytro @isazi a 2020 proccesor cannot afford to have 2 parallel Suunto Plus features? I was hopping that it was a problem more in SW area 😔😔😔

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                            DMytro @suzzlo
                            last edited by 11 May 2022, 19:59

                            @suzzlo I think s9p wasn’t necessary marketed as a successor more like a younger sibling.

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                              suzzlo Moderator @DMytro
                              last edited by 12 May 2022, 04:48

                              @dmytro I’m not talking about mobile sagas, just about which HW include in a 2021 year.

                              According to my Google search:

                              • S9P was launched in June 2021
                              • S9 was launched in June 2018

                              They have different HW, at least Bluetooth had been updated, and I hope also memory and proccesor, so this is why I feel that S9P should be more capable than S9 and be able to run 2 Suunto Plus in parallel

                              BR

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                                freeheeler @suzzlo
                                last edited by 12 May 2022, 05:15

                                @suzzlo said in Suunto Plus Climb (Hill training) and grade in %:

                                S9P should be more capable than S9 and be able to run 2 Suunto Plus in parallel

                                would be nice, I’d appreciate and also use that frequently 🙂
                                with ambit we could use up to 5 apps… but I don’t want to dig around in the past and say that everything was better in ancient days 😂

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                                  DMytro @suzzlo
                                  last edited by 12 May 2022, 06:09

                                  @suzzlo you could be right - it also has smaller display resolution, so less stressful for the processor as well. We will see, how the things turn out I guess.

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                                    Kramble @DMytro
                                    last edited by 8 Jan 2023, 14:44

                                    Hi, I can’t select the Climb Suunto plus app anymore on my S9 peak. It’s ok with Safe or Burner…but when I touch on Climb it doesn’t appear and the field Suunto plus is empty on the setting screen of my activity.
                                    I tried to remove it from th watch with Suunto app but when I selected it again to put it in the watch, the problem remains the same on the watch. I see it but I can’t select Climb.

                                    Do you have something similar?

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                                      freeheeler @Kramble
                                      last edited by 8 Jan 2023, 16:03

                                      @Kramble
                                      yes, it seems that @Tieutieu faces this issue frequently. not sure if it is still the case for @Tieutieu ?
                                      https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8401/software-update-2-23-20-all-s-watches-except-s9-peak-pro/93?_=1673193588806

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                                        Kramble @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 8 Jan 2023, 19:05

                                        @freeheeler thanks 👍

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