Suunto 7 Successor
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@olymay
“Right now, I cannot follow a training peaks plan that requires me to run at a particular pace or HR, as it means I have to constantly check my watch during the run. This adds a level of stress I do not want or need. I run to relax and escape, worrying about checking my watch defeats that. However, a watch that notifies me if I’m going too fast or slow, or too hard or too easy takes away that worry and means I can just run.”And this is one of the things I love about my Garmin - you set up a workout and designate the target i.e. HR stay in zones 2-3. When you launch it you get an additional screen with your normal screens - a target screen which just shows a red, green, red gauge - so its easy to see when you are on target or off it, and if you set audio prompts and have a connected headset to your watch you will be told to increase when below target or decrease when above target - so you literally can just run without having to look at the watch. Find it super useful when focusing on cadence and or HR zones.
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Out of curiosity I tried pro 80/20endurance hm training on TP and their pro maintenance training and in 10 years since I started training, I have never seen my HR go 30bpm or a 265W lap at 135bpm with 0% drift in 60minutes. Consistency, severe case of OCD and volume is essential.
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@jamie-bg IF works for you you should use it, more in your case that you have some pathologies and you have found a tool that help you to deal with them.
IMHO most of these features doesn’t give any or much value but well, its my opinion. I have changed my 7 field screen in the watch for a five field because I didn’t need to deal with more information while training or racing. I have a Garmin bike computer and some of the metrics aren’t useful at all some are a good idea but doesn’t work well or aren’t reliable.
You say that the watch helped you to be motivated but I think it is more involved to the body chemistry of doing exercise, to start doing exercise you need some motivation but once started with some consistency our body frees some hormones that helps us to keep up and continue doing exercise.
BTW, I do not know in the S7 but in the Spartan and S5/S9’s you can set targets (pace zones, HR zones, power zones), and the watch will tell you if you are over or under. You can also set time or distance targets and the watch will tell you when you have reached half of the target and the end of it.
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@cosme-costa I agree with you and @Brad_Olwin, that it seems to be helpful to have real basic training foundation and a clear goal to make progress. I am a very inexperienced runner and can’t give any tips here, but I am a experienced martial arts practitioner and there it’s the same: novice students often come and want to do all the fancy kicks and techniques they see in the movies much too early. But while it’s ok also to try a difficult 360 degree kick or a knife disarm in the beginning , the main goal first is to stand rooted to the ground and do simple punches and straight low and medium kicks for quite some time, at least the first year as your main training part. And I don’t know about experienced runners, but I guess - and see in SA, that they too will do basic training and recovery as a reasonable part of their training as well as black belts in martial arts still train basic techniques regularly
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@jamie-bg that’sthere on the Suunto too and IMO the best solution compared to the gauges of Garmin, Polar or Coros
and you can also set alarms for a certain HR zone and get notifications to slow down or run faster and - at least in my experience - I found the Suunto 9 better here reacting on HR changes than Garmin, where it always took some more time for the Fenix 6 to react to changes in HR.
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@cosme-costa Well said! And agree with you @ChrisA. I never show HR value in a screen, just use the outer ring to stay in the zone.
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I got the book, reading since evening at about 1/3 finished. Book is excellent. I recommend reading to everyone before coming here to argue about anything. You do need base line training not only below aerobic threshold but some zone2-3 biology also
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@lexterm77 said in Suunto 7 Successor:
I got the book, reading since evening at about 1/3 finished. Book is excellent. I recommend reading to everyone before coming here to argue about anything. You do need base line training not only below aerobic threshold but some zone2-3 biology also
If your aerobic base is solid.
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@brad_olwin said in Suunto 7 Successor:
@lexterm77 said in Suunto 7 Successor:
I got the book, reading since evening at about 1/3 finished. Book is excellent. I recommend reading to everyone before coming here to argue about anything. You do need base line training not only below aerobic threshold but some zone2-3 biology also
If your aerobic base is solid.
I meant Zone2-3 Biology course :laugh: you need to understand words author is saying to make sense of it.
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@suzzlo said in Suunto 7 Successor:
Watches don’t run
That might become a similar epic „meme“ in the sportswatch area like Bruce Lee‘s „boards don’t hit back“ in martial arts
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@chrisa probably I can design some T-Shirts this message: “Keep calm, because watches don’t run”
Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
SA topics:- Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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@suzzlo and I’m already listening to “Watches don’t run” a cover of “Boys don’t cry”
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi yes, it is very catchy message
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@lexterm77 Funny, this is stuff I know very well…
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It’s similar to other training plans. Majority under AoT, very little between AoT and LT, some Z4 and Z5 intervals. If you put percentage under zones you basically get same numbers 80/20. Part about throwing away watch I liked because watch can’t tell you anything if you never went to a lab. Also I liked how author said the truth about wisely choosing your parents and grandparents and that doing large volume of aerobic stuff at very young age and while growing up has epigenetic effect on how quickly can you adapt to training loads and what can you do.
What else, nose breathing or talk test is useless if you are not aerobically trained.When Killian Jornet noted if you train only 600h a year you can be good at short distances was funny.
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@olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:
The default map area it downloads is a 54km square centred on your location, so pretty wide
I was reading the thread and my right eye focused on that number: 54km.
I am unable to select an area greater than 42km. Why? -
@g-q said in Suunto 7 Successor:
@olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:
The default map area it downloads is a 54km square centred on your location, so pretty wide
I was reading the thread and my right eye focused on that number: 54km.
I am unable to select an area greater than 42km. Why?That’s odd, mine defaults at 54km.
Where are you looking to get this?
I go into the following:
Open Suunto App with top right button
Scroll down to ‘Map Options’
Scroll down to ‘Offline Map’ (under this in grey text it says ‘Tap to define’)
This next screen shows my local map with a 54km square. Using the top and bottom buttons on the right hand side of the watch I can zoom in to a minimum of 3km to a maximum of 10,872km (HUGE!). The middle button confirms the selction.
You can also use the touchscreen to pan the map around as well as pinch to zoom in and out.Hopefully this works for you.
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@olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:
Where are you looking to get this?
directly on the watch, probably that’s the reason
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@g-q said in Suunto 7 Successor:
@olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:
Where are you looking to get this?
directly on the watch, probably that’s the reason
Yes, this is all done on the watch
