Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak

[markytarky]

@tomas5 not true, the original price was 329€, they adjusted it later on to 249€, so current model starts lower and they will lower it as well as they did with S9P titanium (from 699 to 629€).

[Tomas5]

@dmytro well i don’t know about HR on S5P for me HR on wrist doesn’t work well on S5 so i use hr belt. As specification says, battery life is same, only added some endurance mode but it will have some 2min gps fix so it will not be much benefit. And in S5 with custom setting with lower GPS it is possible to get to around 70h estimate with disabled WHR so it is not much difference. And water resistance is much more important at least for me.

[Tomas5]

@markytarky why should i care about price 3 years ago? I care about todays price. Even in spring 2021 i bought S5 from suunto for around 250€. And i never told that S5P initial price is higher than S5 inicial price.I just compare what is on market right now at this point.

[DMytro]

@tomas5 everyone has their needs, that’s understandable. I don’t swim lately, but even if I were, I wouldn’t bring my watch with. I kinda have anxiety that my watch will be damaged by water, much more so water in swimming pools. Next time, I’ll just use the belt and count pools manually.

[Tomas5]

@dmytro now when swimming pools are closed because of covid i don’t swim much too. But regardless if i am in pool, lake, ocean, river i don’t want to care if my watch will survive if i dive just few meters. With 30m rating i would be really afraid to do more than swimming on water level. And firmware updates is good point, longer support make sense as it is newer device.

[ChrisA]

@tomas5 If you need a water proof watch for more than 30m or a barometer it’s not your watch. It’s a personal thing of course and I can understand that that is a bummer for you, but what one could read from first reviews and what some people here confirm, performance in GPS seems pretty solid and HR too. DC Rainmaker compared it against the 800.- € Fenix 7 in pool swimming were it outperformed the later one. For me - together with the smaller form factor and the weight - that’s worth 300€ and find it a reasonable price. Perhaps there will be a S5 Peak Baro someday

[Tomas5]

@chrisa yes it is strongy subjective opinion. Just i bought S5 year ago as replacement of old Ambit 2S, i didn’t want to spend more than 300€ for watch. I lost compass compared to A2S but i could live with that. But i was still hoping that it will get again better with S5 successor. Probably that is reason i am so disapointed. I had expectation that succesor will be better in every spec, not bring new compromises. And even these days where there are garmin instinct with baro, compas, 100m water proof for prices between 200-300€, than there is coros with really feature rich watches. I am just disapointed that with every new suunto desicion i feel like my next watch in future will not be suunto

[Bulkan]

@tomas5 are you an expert of materials? I think is not accurate your better or worse. I’m not but I recall something about the body wasn’t worse in the new model. I can’t find it.

And the s5p has better gps and battery life in such tiny device.

Maybe when you see it in person changes your mind.

[DMytro]

@bulkan of course we don’t know the results of suunto’s durability tests, but the plastic screen ‘glass’ is definitely more prone to scratches than mineral glass. I can’t comment on anything else though.

[ChrisA]

@tomas5 I can understand that! I am not a Suunto user for that long time and so I don’t miss „older“ features. I don’t need a compass or a barometer (it’s nice if it’s there, but I don’t really need or use it in a sportswatch atm). Can’t really recommend Garmin (awful confusing app and at least for me the Fenix was not as sensitive e.g in showing pace changes etc). Besides Suunto I prefer Polar - the Grit X Pro seems really nice but also comes with a 500€ Price tag…

[Theo Lakerveld]

With DC Rainmaker being the leading reviewer of sports wearables, companies (sales) are probably quite depending on his “judgment”. So for those of us who like Suunto, it’s nice to see that he appreciates the 5 peak.
In the comment field, below the review, I only see 3 negative comments about Suunto in general. So let’s write something constructive in the S5P comment field, to back up Suunto. Relevant feedback to the DCR review from users like us is probably much appreciated by Suunto.

[DMytro]

@theo-lakerveld in every review of suunto watches he mentions lack of on-watch workouts. It’s great that this might be ending soon.

[Theo Lakerveld]

@dmytro Yes, and he’s right in that, structured workouts are missing and should have been introduced a long time ago. Together with the missing possibilty for multiple bleutooth sensor pairing. When other companies can do this, Suunto watches should definitely have a possibility for a sensor pool.

But either way, as frequent users, let’s back up Suunto, and talk honestly and positively about the products and company in comments below reviews. At least, as long as your satisfied. I’m convinced that the number of comments and overall opinion in these comments will have an impact on the sales rates and future of the company.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

I haven’t touched the watch or seen it with my eyes, so my opinion is based on images and reviews available so far. And I find this release rather puzzling.

I’d say it’s a lifting - both internal and external, but lifting nevertheless. Some aspects are strange - like making it less durable (what I can only suspect by definition of materials used and less water resistance than the original S5), but others make sense, like creating a new, visual look, that is in line with the new S9.

For me, having normal straps instead of integrated one is definitely a good thing. I’m not sure how long will the original strap on my S5 last, but having to send a watch to Suunto just to change the faulty strap is a bad user experience to say the least (I’ll probably go with aftermarket ones).

OTA is a welcome addition, but nothing life changing I’d say - it’s not that I have to plug my watch into PC every day.

OHR - I’m yet to see an OHR that’s awesome to the point that the belt is not required really, but I suspect that for 24/7 it’s good enough anyway (as is the original S5).

When I was buying a watch and had to choose between Garmin, S5 and S9 in 2019, it was clear to me that S5 is ideal for my needs as I really wanted to have a breadcrumb navigation and the cheapest forerunner with navigation was more expensive than S5 a month after its release.

But if I had to buy a watch now, I probably wouldn’t go for S5P. I’d be discouraged with it being too delicate for an outdoor / used daily watch.

The price seems OK, though (considering it’ll drop in coming months).

I wonder what’ll happen with the original S5? Will Suunto abandon it, or is it going to produce both S5 and S5P?

[Egika]

@łukasz-szmigiel very good and valid points!
While most of the changes are either welcome (weight, GPS chip, straps) or a don’t care (OTA updates, depth rating), it kind of comes down to “how is the material (of the screen) different to that from the S5?”

Can anyone of the testers who have used it for some longer time now comment on this? @isazi @Brad_Olwin ?

[isazi]

@egika said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

Can anyone of the testers who have used it for some longer time now comment on this? @isazi @Brad_Olwin ?

I have used the watch for 6 months now, and the screen is fine. In the same amount of time I managed to scratch my phone’s screen
It is not sapphire, so if I bought my own I would probably apply a screen protector, just in case, as I do for all non sapphire watches (after having scratched my old Garmin Fenix 3 while sleeping).

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@isazi is it mineral glass or plastic? How about readability compared to original S5?

[isazi]

@łukasz-szmigiel I do not have an S5 to compare with, although @Brad_Olwin should have one. I can compare only to the S9 family, and the S5P is (in a way) more readable because sapphire screens tend to have more reflection. As for the material, I have no way to know. If Suunto says it is plastic, than it must be plastic.

And, in my opinion, this is not a replacement for users that are already happy with their S5 today. However, at the same time I do not expect the S5 to still receive much updates 3 years from now.

[surfboomerang]

@isazi said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

However, at the same time I do not expect the S5 to still receive much updates 3 years from now

Because of hardware limitations? The whole S5/9 series are pretty much alligned in software now, right?

[Shrek3k]

I have to admit, that the 5P would nicely fulfil all my current requirements. At the same time not all my wishes for capabilities would be covered, capabilities that I would most likely not even use. So, in case I would need an immediate and sensible replacement for my S9 Non-Baro it should be the S5.
As I am not too sensible and don’t need a replacement now, I nevertheless won’t buy it, but will recommend it to a number of guys.