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    A Former User @tomkys
    last edited by 22 Jan 2022, 19:26

    @tomkys said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

    @tomas5 All points totally valid. I see it very same way (I’m Suunto 5 user as well). This watch is just not upgrade for current S5 users. It should be called Suunto 3 paek or at least Suunto 5 light. When I saw name Suunto 5 PEAK I was really excited and expected to see more expensive Suunto 5 with compass and baro…and there is none of that…not even that compass which was basic feature in all Ambits. Just plastic instead of glass…great. I do not know why Suunto has such a problem to introduce any compact mid watch with barometer?! For me barometer is just not a reason why I would buy 3x more expensive Suunto 9 Peak…there should be something in between.

    Maybe to be positioned between the FR245 (non baro, plastic) and the 645 (baro,metal).
    Maybe it is not a reason for you to buy 3x more expensive suunto 9 peak. But I would say for a lot of people it would be a reason to not upgrade to the S9P.

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      DMytro @Guest
      last edited by 22 Jan 2022, 20:00

      @andré-faria + just as s9p to S9 was not quite meant as a complete overhaul, but rather as a flagship alternative, so is s5p to S5, hence the number wasn’t changed. Or at least that might be the reason.

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        Tomas5 @Guest
        last edited by Tomas5 23 Jan 2022, 12:28

        @andré-faria from my opinion i would expect to S5 peak to have gps, compass, baro and at least same water proof as S5. I would see added value of S9 peak to have maybe baro and compass with better accuracy, to have touch screen (if somebody like it), to have more premium materials like saphire glass, titanium body, longer battery life. I don’t need baro as much but compass is really missing feature in S5. Navigation is great on bike, maybe while running but while hiking it is very useless when i need lot of times go 20-30meter wrong direction just to let navigation figure out which direction i am moving. With compass it would be so much better. In time of Ambit, event cheapes ambit 2R had compass if i am not mistaken. At least Ambit 2S which i purchased for 350€ with chest strap included had 50m water proof rating, compass. I see that suunto want somehow force users to by more expensive staff too. But i think this move will kill middle watch line up. But what could i know, maybe time will tell that people don’t care about this things and buy everything. But i see multiple watches on market with price below 300€ which has compas, baro, gps.

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          suzzlo Moderator
          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:34

          For me there is no difference between 100m-50m-30m… I never been so deep… did you really think a regular user take care about water proof? I don’t think so

          BR

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            Tomas5
            last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:37

            But somehow i told myself that i don’t care anymore. I hope S5 will work for me for next 3-4 years i hope. And than i will see what next. For now i am satisfied with S5. Yes there are some problems which i don’t like or features i am missing, or feature that was taken away. But still it is great watch and i really like it. And even i lot of times complain about something, i still like suunto and i do it just to let them know that some changes would be welcomed.

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              Tomas5 @suzzlo
              last edited by Tomas5 23 Jan 2022, 12:38

              @suzzlo but at least with other watch brands it doesn’t mean that you can dive 30m deep. It is just rating that usually means that 30m is for very light swimming on surface, with 50m i thing there is allowed to snorkeling and than at 100m and more there is some real possibility for diving.

              Edit: it is even more restrictive than u said above https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark

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                DMytro @Tomas5
                last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:59

                @tomas5 you need to make a correction for inflation. I did a quick search, in 2010 350€ were the same as 444€ today. And sp5 is 50 euro less. Would you consider s9p with 50m water resistance, baro, compass for 150 euros more than it’s selling for right now?

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                  DMytro @suzzlo
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 13:04

                  @suzzlo I would disagree on this one. 30m is rating for still water, but once you stop swimming, the pressure on the body of the watch increases - the more furious are you’re strokes, the more challenged is the watch. I don’t know by how much though and whether 30m would cover regular pool swimming or not. Next, if we’re talking outdoor swimming, we may need to anticipate waves and their impact on the watch. Finally, since waterproofing is at least somewhat realised through adhesive and it ages, I would have more trust in 100m waterproofness than 30m.
                  But personally, I prefer not to trust waterproof rating at all - it gives me a piece of mind if I get in the rain/snow or if I need to submerge my watch for some reason, but I wouldn’t want to go swimming with it - chest strap is enough.

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                    Tomas5 @DMytro
                    last edited by Tomas5 23 Jan 2022, 13:55

                    @dmytro well i bought mine A2S in 2013/2014 so it would be more like 410€ in todays price. But i can’t forget that i get hr belt included. With S5P i would had to pay another 80€ for that. Suddenly difference 380€ vs 410€ is difference 30€. So yes i can buy 30€ cheaper in todays prices, but with worst spec in multiple important features. Oposite way mobile phones today are multiple times faster and has multiple times of storage, resolution and another capabilities in same price even after including inflation difference. So i don’t see this as much valid point.

                    Edit: no point to argue here, i am just not target group for this new S5P ( and i wasnt planing to buy one either) . We will see what future bring as.

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                      DMytro @Tomas5
                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 14:10

                      @tomas5 that’s not quite true. Bundles with HR belt cost 50 euros more, not 80. So more like 60 euros difference, no?
                      And once again, compared to a2p, s5p has more fitness and outdoor smarts. Better display resolution, more metrics, OHR, quick release straps, etc.
                      Who says that watches don’t eveolve as smartphones do? I think sensors used have gone through multiple generations between different models. Of course, the pace is not as quick as with smartphones - but barely any tech advances as fast.

                      I think the bottom line should be: s5p has improved in a few areas compared to S5, which is to be expected from a new model that is ± successor in this line. However, it features a ‘flagship’ GPS chipset, which is usually not the case for midranger. But it also last few things: glass display, metal buttons and water resistance. And it costs 50 euro less. If these changes are justifiable are up to the user.

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                        Tomas5 @DMytro
                        last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 14:18

                        @dmytro well my fault i didn’t know i could buy S5 with bundled hr belt. So i paid 80€ for that.

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                          suzzlo Moderator @DMytro
                          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 14:27

                          @dmytro @Tomas5 so… if you are advanced swimmer or so, you will need to look at S9P, or other watch, but probably, this is not S5P target user…
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                            Tomas5 @suzzlo
                            last edited by Tomas5 23 Jan 2022, 14:30

                            @suzzlo is there somewhere exact meaning of waterproofing by suunto? By international standards 30m is suitable for shower only. But since this watch are usable for swimming this is not case for suunto. So what exactly 30m and 50m means by suunto ?

                            I am not advanced swimmer but i like to dive while snorkelling, usually not deeper than 2-3m but rarely maybe to 4m.

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                              isazi Moderator @Tomas5
                              last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 14:35

                              @tomas5 what I know is that reviewers swim with the S5P, often. Not me though.

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                                surfboomerang @Tomas5
                                last edited by surfboomerang 23 Jan 2022, 15:17

                                @tomas5 the 10m, 30m 100m etc. are in fact pressure measurements converted to water depths so people can relate a bit better.

                                The waterproofness is tested by pressure. 100m means the watch is capable of withstanding pressure of 10 bar without leaking. This can be 100m under water without speed, but if you add speed to the equation it can be a bit different.

                                For me as a windsurfer for example, I always go for 100m classification because of the chance of hitting the water at high speeds. No idea if 50m (or 5 bar) of pressure would also be suffice, but I’m not taking the chance because I have no exact pressure measurement of the the moments when the watch is hitting the water.

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                                  suzzlo Moderator @Tomas5
                                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 15:31

                                  @tomas5 uhmmm you are right, in some web pages don’t recommend using 30m watches to swim… let’s see what is announcing exactly Suunto, when the watch is officially released

                                  BR

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                                    Tomas5 @suzzlo
                                    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 15:39

                                    @suzzlo i was looking on suunto website but i didn’t find any clarification what 30m or 50 or 100m means by them. I know the bars rating, but recomendations really can differ since other brands don’t recomend with this kind of watch to swim. But suunto is better in this as it allow to use watch rated 30m in water but i don’t know exactly how much of water it can handle. I am not afraid much with 50m rating for regular swim or diving jsut few meter. But with 30m i would really worry about watch.

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                                      Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 26 Jan 2022, 17:55

                                      Ray is quite positive about the new 5 Peak in his latest video review.
                                      https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/01/suunto-interface-overview.html

                                      Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                                        pavel.samokha @Tomas5
                                        last edited by 26 Jan 2022, 18:25

                                        @tomas5

                                        Disclaimer, that’s not official answer, but from what I know:

                                        We test all products according to a protocol based on the dive standard ISO 6425.
                                        For non-Dive products we exclude a couple of procedures, like pressure cycling, but all in all, our tests are much harder on the devices than ISO 22810 (water resistant mark)
                                        Based on unofficial descriptions that we have used internally, our water resistant to 30/50/100m means you can dive to that depth with the watch.

                                        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                          MiniForklift Platinum Member @pavel.samokha
                                          last edited by MiniForklift 26 Jan 2022, 19:39

                                          @pavel-samokha said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

                                          @tomas5

                                          Disclaimer, that’s not official answer, but from what I know:

                                          We test all products according to a protocol based on the dive standard ISO 6425.
                                          For non-Dive products we exclude a couple of procedures, like pressure cycling, but all in all, our tests are much harder on the devices than ISO 22810 (water resistant mark)
                                          Based on unofficial descriptions that we have used internally, our water resistant to 30/50/100m means you can dive to that depth with the watch.

                                          Well that’s great to know, thanks. Usually if a watch is 30m water resistant you’re taking a risk even swimming with it

                                          I listened to a podcast a while back where they were discussing dive watches, they were alluding to the fact that a dive watch with a 100m or 200m rating isn’t going to fault so much due to the depth, it’s more the pressure that’s the limiting factor. There’s also different strains being placed on your watch at those levels depending on how (and how much) you are moving your arms around

                                          Was really interesting to hear them talking about pressure as I think everyone naturally associates WR with depth and depth alone

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