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Blood oxygen saturation values completely wrong and inaccurate.

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    Max90PayneFPV
    last edited by 6 Feb 2024, 15:32

    Hello everyone !!

    I took some measurements with my nuvo race of the blood oxygen saturation value…

    All readings report absurd and inaccurate values!!

    Values like 70-80…I wouldn’t be here writing!!

    Comparison tests were carried out with a certified oximeter, Apple Watch 6 and Amazfit Trex 2…which all give me real and exact values!!

    I wear the race on my left wrist where I always put my other smartwatches too…

    Defective sensor? Can a calibration be done?

    A thousand thanks

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      Max90PayneFPV @Max90PayneFPV
      last edited by 6 Feb 2024, 17:29

      @Max90PayneFPV IMG_5607.jpeg

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        surfboomerang @Max90PayneFPV
        last edited by surfboomerang 2 Jun 2024, 21:26 6 Feb 2024, 18:59

        @Max90PayneFPV SpO2 has never worked for me either. Not with my S9P and not with the SV.
        That is, if it even measures. Most of the times I get a warning it could not measure it.

        The only time I get values is if I press my finger on the sensor 😄 Even then the values aren’t consistent.

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          Sebastian Wagner 0
          last edited by 6 Feb 2024, 19:08

          at first i have got the same problem with my suunto race.
          then i wore my watch a bit away from the wrist joint, more towards the forearm (there is more flesh) there i get good readings for spO2. around the wrist it is too bony. hope that helps.

          t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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            GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Max90PayneFPV
            last edited by GiPFELKiND 2 Jun 2024, 19:44 6 Feb 2024, 19:24

            @Max90PayneFPV Hey Bro 🤗 if you wear your watch everytime like this i think it is okay that you get false values. You have to put the sensor 2 fingers away from your wrist. Try it like in my Picture and hold your watch only with 2 fingers in Position.!

            2 fingers away from your wrist Look at the first picture

            Try it without fixing the Wristband and hold it in place – Look at the 2 Picture, press the watch soft on your skin. To much pressure also make false values.

            Then i get right values … Perhaps this Help you 🤗! Show the last Picture

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              surfboomerang @GiPFELKiND
              last edited by 6 Feb 2024, 21:46

              @GiPFELKiND moving the watch 2 fingers up and warming up the skin does help getting readings.
              I tried 3 times in a row without moving the watch or changing the pressure. The results were 73, 98 and 86. Not really the reliability I was hoping for…

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                maszop Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                last edited by 6 Feb 2024, 21:53

                @surfboomerang It is best to place your hand on a table or other stable surface and do not make even the slightest movements.

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                  Dante Mclalla Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                  last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 07:54

                  @surfboomerang
                  I think that the sensor used on SV and SR is bad and no firmware can mitigate its inaccuracy.
                  This proved to be the case with my SV which at the end I returned and I once again discovered that AW Ultra 2 e Epix Pro 2 have way better sensor than Suunto. It’s an unfortunate choice by Suunto which undermines the whole product which, apart from this, is a very good watch• If a sensor is faulty, all the measurements and health data are then unreliable.
                  I’m giving a last try to a Suunto Race arriving today and I will compare it with the Polar Vantage V3. The Polar still shows some inaccuracy. However, Polar uses a highly advanced sensor hardware - very different from Suunto crap sensor - which will be for sure improved with the next FWs.

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                    A Former User @Dante Mclalla
                    last edited by A Former User 2 Jul 2024, 08:06 7 Feb 2024, 08:04

                    @Dante-Mclalla said in Blood oxygen saturation values completely wrong and inaccurate.:

                    I think that the sensor used on SV and SR is bad

                    On what is this statement based? The fact that some users have uneven readings does not necessarily imply that the sensor is “bad.” I also happen to have erroneous readings, but for example on my wife’s wrist the readings are always correct (obviously compared to a oxymeter).

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                      maszop Bronze Member @Dante Mclalla
                      last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 09:08

                      @Dante-Mclalla It works fine for me

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                        Dante Mclalla Bronze Member @Guest
                        last edited by Dante Mclalla 2 Jul 2024, 09:48 7 Feb 2024, 09:47

                        @robis Is based on my experience and looking at the results coming from Garmin Epix pro 2 and my Whoop.
                        Starting from today I will compare SR with Coros Pace 3 and Whoop and Polar Vantage V3 and let’s see how and if Suunto faces its competitors. Honestly, I have no great expectations…

                        By the way, from DCRainmaker “Now, remember I mentioned earlier in the review I only had two complaint areas? And that the first was slowness? Well, here’s the second – optical heart rate sensor accuracy. It’s bad. There’s no two ways to slice it.”
                        https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/11/suunto-race-amoled-in-depth-review.html

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                          isazi Moderator @Dante Mclalla
                          last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 09:58

                          @Dante-Mclalla for me both Vertical and Race match a chest strap in a large variety of workouts for 99% of the time.

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                            Egika Platinum Member
                            last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 10:05

                            this is about SpO2 measurement accuracy.
                            I do get consistently 97-99% readings if I trigger it during the day (watch worn as suggested, hand lying on table without movement).
                            If I enable the measurement during the night (which I usually don’t do as I live in Hamburg), I get 100% nightly maximums.

                            Seems to be good enough for me - while I have absolutely no use for this feature.

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                              Dante Mclalla Bronze Member @Dante Mclalla
                              last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 10:07

                              @Dante-Mclalla lets find out in the next days. I’d hope to get good results as I love Suunto watches.
                              Suunto (as well as Polar and Casio) should learn from Coros in terms of continuous release of FW update fixing issues and introducing new functions on both the latest and oldest releases. In few years, Coros took the lead in ultra marathon races and is second only to Garmin (5-7 years ago Suunto was a clear second behind Garmin). This means something…

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                                Dante Mclalla Bronze Member @isazi
                                last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 10:09

                                @isazi BO saturation depends on the sensor, if the sensor is inaccurate the same will be for BOxygen

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                                  maszop Bronze Member @Dante Mclalla
                                  last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 11:10

                                  @Dante-Mclalla said in Blood oxygen saturation values completely wrong and inaccurate.:

                                  @isazi BO saturation depends on the sensor, if the sensor is inaccurate the same will be for BOxygen

                                  Practice shows that this is not the case.

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @Dante Mclalla
                                    last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 11:16

                                    @Dante-Mclalla it depends on the sensor and the application of the sensor.
                                    The result cannot be better than each factor.

                                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                    Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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                                      Dante Mclalla Bronze Member @maszop
                                      last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 13:02

                                      @maszop Hope I’m wrong! I’ll see by myself in the next days: Suunto Race vs Coros P3 vs Whoop Vs Polar V3. I’ll keep the whoop and the most accurate watch

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @Dante Mclalla
                                        last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 13:10

                                        @Dante-Mclalla this makes sense, if it works best for you.
                                        Out of curiosity: What is your use case for a most accurate SPO2 measurement?

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                        Run Lime

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                                          maszop Bronze Member @Dante Mclalla
                                          last edited by 7 Feb 2024, 13:17

                                          @Dante-Mclalla Watches, especially Suunto, have problems measuring heart rate during more intense activity. When at rest (blood oxygen measurement), it’s not that difficult, as long as the watch is fastened correctly, there are no tattoos, etc.

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