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No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation

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    Redbird
    last edited by 26 Feb 2024, 05:30

    , je ne suis pas le seul à ne pas adhérer avec ce guidage comme telle. Je me sert de la navigation principalement à vélo, j’ai vraiment du mal à suivre un itinéraire "étape par étape " comme il est présenté actuellement. Je n’ai pas toujours la possibilité d’avoir le regard sur le poignet ( montre ) soit pour cause de trafic !! ou encore une descente rapide à vélo, une route ou chemin dégradés mais aussi des manches longue sur les bras en plein hiver donc écran pas lisible directement !!. Un affichage comme il est proposé actuellement 100m avant le carrefour avec une durée de 3 secondes puis plus rien est inapproprié pour une bonne navigation !!! quand je suis dans un carrefour ma vue est en direction de la trajectoire du vélo et non sur l’écran de ma montre pour m’indiquer un changement de direction qui arrivera que bien plus tard !! cela est une question de sécurité et de bon sens pour une pratique à bicyclette … Je suggère à Suunto d’avertir comme actuellement le changement de direction 100m avant mais de laisser l’affichage " étape par étape " jusqu’à la fin ( du changement de direction ou sortie du virage ). Et ainsi avoir la possibilité de visionner en temps réel la direction à suivre avec une vraie certitude !! et sans devoir basculer à chaque fois sur l’écran ( petit poucet ) pour voir si je suis bien sur l’itinéraire .
    Si vous êtes de mon avis faite le savoir ou remonter afin qu’une mise à jour change cela. Merci d’avance …
    J’ai déjà posséder une montre d’une autre marque qui fessait cela très bien et nul besoin d’avoir une cartographie pour bien se diriger.
    Pour toutes les autres fonctions de la montre je suis vraiment satisfait, je remercie encore Suunto, vraiment un très beau produit avec une finition exemplaire et très élégante au poignet Merci

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      Tieutieu Platinum Member @Redbird
      last edited by Tieutieu 26 Feb 2024, 06:01

      @Redbird : many times discussed. Almost everybody agree that the way it actually works is not the best.
      For now it has not evolved.
      I also use navigation a lot, for biking, hiking.
      Since I use maps with the vertical, I don’t use turn by turn alerts anymore, but I also would be please to see improvements with the way it works.
      the most annoying thing to me is especially the fact that the second alert (which tells the next point) is precisely « hiding map » at the turning point.
      I’d rather have a first alert « y » meters before the turn, and a second « x » seconds (based on speed, so distance would be different depending on which activity you’re practicing) before the turning point, and then have the map displayed when arriving to turn.
      The next turn alert could also be displayed few meter after turning point.
      Or, like you said, having indications as an overlay on map would be awesome.

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        neverhood
        last edited by 26 Feb 2024, 07:13

        Thank you for your answers.
        I’ve only used car navigation so far and it’s probably habits I need to get rid of.

        I have one more question. When I create a route in the Suunto app on my watch, I don’t get any notifications. Is there something I need to do?
        Fortunately, I use plotaroute and then I have notifications, but it is annoying that the Suunto app does not export notifications after synchronising the route with the watch.

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          Mff73 @neverhood
          last edited by 26 Feb 2024, 12:09

          @neverhood
          The problem is not really the syncing of turns from outside sources to Suuntoapp and the watch, it is the way the watch is managing the notifications : at a turn, there is a special point with indication that there is something to notify. And the watch is warning 100m before it, and nothing else, and then it is focused on the next turn.
          Whatever you can do with plotaroute or komoot or any other routes, if the watch mechanisms are not changed, it will stay the same.

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @neverhood
            last edited by 26 Feb 2024, 14:36

            @neverhood You need to turn on turn by turn, it is not on by default, when creating a route.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

            A 1 Reply Last reply 26 Feb 2024, 22:35 Reply Quote 0
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              Audaxjoe @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by Audaxjoe 26 Feb 2024, 22:35

              @Brad_Olwin said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

              @neverhood You need to turn on turn by turn, it is not on by default, when creating a route.

              I’ve never created a route on Suunto App but via Kamoot turn by turn is the default. Strange it is the opposite 🤷🏻‍♂️
              I also turn the turn by turn off.

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                Tieutieu Platinum Member @Audaxjoe
                last edited by 27 Feb 2024, 06:33

                @Audaxjoe you should try native route creation with SA ! 😊
                I’ve tried komoot a few times. SA is so much easy to me ! (Except maybe if you are using existing routes in komoot).

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                Vertical titanium solar
                Suunto Race S
                S9pp titanium sand
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                  Audaxjoe @Tieutieu
                  last edited by 27 Feb 2024, 10:55

                  @Tieutieu said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

                  @Audaxjoe you should try native route creation with SA ! 😊
                  I’ve tried komoot a few times. SA is so much easy to me ! (Except maybe if you are using existing routes in komoot).

                  I think the issue is activity. My main need for a route is cycling, normally in the range of 150-200k. SA isn’t the easiest on a phone for these distances! Or not in my experience anyway 🤣 It could be user error…

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                    Tieutieu Platinum Member @Audaxjoe
                    last edited by Tieutieu 27 Feb 2024, 11:05

                    @Audaxjoe so for you need I can understand why you use komoot ! (Even if SA works well also for cycling to me 😊 )

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Audaxjoe
                      last edited by 27 Feb 2024, 20:53

                      @Audaxjoe Use a tablet or computer.

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                        MiniForklift Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 27 Feb 2024, 20:55

                        @Brad_Olwin said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

                        @Audaxjoe Use a tablet or computer.

                        How do you get the SA on your computer? Probably a stupid question but oh well 😊

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                        B 1 Reply Last reply 27 Feb 2024, 21:40 Reply Quote 1
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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @MiniForklift
                          last edited by 27 Feb 2024, 21:40

                          @MiniForklift On my Mac SA runs great. On Windows 11 I believe Android apps also run.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            enriqueescoms @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by enriqueescoms 28 Feb 2024, 07:03

                            @Brad_Olwin I do the same as you, I also turn off turn-by-turn, but I understand that this is not a solution to what the colleague is asking.

                            In the end, as the turn-by-turn works in such an unhelpful way, it ends up being a useless feature. It’s a pity.

                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                              Tieutieu Platinum Member @enriqueescoms
                              last edited by Tieutieu 28 Feb 2024, 07:54

                              @enriqueescoms when I had no maps (with A3p, S9b…), first there was no turn by turn. When it arrived on S9B, I used it but with the same limitation than now.
                              With the SV and maps, If find it less usefull.
                              When I still use it, I often remove most turning points, only to keep the key ones on my way (complex crossings for examples…). But I only use it as a warning for map looking !

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                              Vertical titanium solar
                              Suunto Race S
                              S9pp titanium sand
                              Suunto Wing
                              S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                enriqueescoms @Tieutieu
                                last edited by 28 Feb 2024, 08:02

                                @Tieutieu Yes, I do much the same. Maybe if the turn-by-turn worked differently I would use it more. Maybe, I don’t know.

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @enriqueescoms
                                  last edited by 29 Feb 2024, 13:24

                                  @enriqueescoms there is a trade off using on a bike vs. Run. But, I agree it needs improvement.

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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