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FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km

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    Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
    last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:05

    @VoiGAS did you register a normal run with Performance mode before? So that the watch got calibrated for your moves?

    S9PP 2.40.38

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      VoiGAS Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:19

      @Łukasz-Szmigiel Yes, a lot. Really strange


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        isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
        last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:20

        @VoiGAS and this is running right, not cycling?

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          VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
          last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 08:42 2 Jul 2024, 08:27

          @isazi Yes, and I just counted the “jumps” in the track - it is just one position marker per minute, nothing in between 😞
          I read the watch should request a compass calibration when Endurance mode is chosen. I never had a message like this


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            isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
            last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:42

            @VoiGAS did you already try to reboot your watch?

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              VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
              last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:43

              @isazi No, I will try that


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                Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 09:46

                As far as I’m aware - this should always work for running activities in Endurance and Ultra if the watch has calibrated wrist movement to GPS, which typically takes one 15+ minutes run in Performance mode.

                @isazi, will such data get refreshed with only a soft-reset?

                S9PP 2.40.38

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                  isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 10:01

                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel I would say that a reboot is the first step, then maybe a factory reset could be necessary. Hopefully not.

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                    VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                    last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 12:07 2 Jul 2024, 10:40

                    @isazi ok, so Soft Reset + AGPS Sync (then wait 15 Minutes) + 15 Minutes Performance Run to calibrate + Compass Calibration + Endurance Run is the way to go . This will be one of my most intense training weeks 😀


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                      Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
                      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 12:06

                      @VoiGAS remember to sync the watch after soft reset and then wait 15 minutes in order for the watch to unpack the AGPS data.

                      S9PP 2.40.38

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                        VoiGAS Silver Members
                        last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:38

                        Soft Reset & Performance Run done, next Test on friday for FusedTrack. Funfact: Ray tested FusedTrack in a 10 Minute Run. Guess what - it worked great 😉
                        https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/1e2d78d0-2e27-4219-7a46-9e64e4526069


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                          isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                          last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:40

                          @VoiGAS honestly not sure if the watch was doing 15 minutes of performance when in endurance mode at that time (2018, the time S9/S9B were introduced). As you can see from the track, the watch was not in performance mode.

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                            VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                            last edited by VoiGAS 7 Mar 2024, 12:52 3 Jul 2024, 12:51

                            @isazi How can you see it was not it performance mode? Is this maybe something I can analyze for my own runs? I just tried it with the GPX (Workout) Export and like expected it is showing 1-3 second intervalls for the first 17 (strange, really 17 and not 15) minutes and afterwards just one position entry per minute

                            Edit I mean the old, faulty one. After the reset I still have to try


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                              isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                              last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:52

                              @VoiGAS because the track would be much better if it was in performance mode.

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                                VoiGAS Silver Members
                                last edited by 5 Jul 2024, 15:32

                                Soft Reset did not work, same 1 Minute Jumps like before ☹️. Worst thing is that it completly cuts the last meters that way. If it would just sync GPS at the end.
                                Next station Hard Reset, I hope it helps


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                                  VoiGAS Silver Members
                                  last edited by 6 Jul 2024, 09:28

                                  Update after Hard Reset: At the end of the Calibration (Performance Mode) Run the watch showed a message “Laufen kalibriert” (running calibrated). This message didn’t show up after the soft reset, so I keep my fingers crossed for tomorrow…


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                                    VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                                    last edited by VoiGAS 7 Jul 2024, 11:07 7 Jul 2024, 10:27

                                    @isazi @Łukasz-Szmigiel Unfortunatly it didn’t work. I also noticed that the pace was way off, it showed 7:00 to 11:00min/km during the run. So also FusedSpeed doesn’t work. Thats really a bummer as the Fused Algorithms are Suuntos USP and I really like to use them.
                                    I guess the accelerometer is defective - hopefully Suunto can repair it ☹️


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                                      VoiGAS Silver Members
                                      last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 10:55

                                      Update after I sent the watch to Suunto for repair: No defect, I should try to do a calibration run and the watch is already on the way home 😤
                                      Somehow I expected it to be this way, but still I’m disappointed. I like Suuntos idea with FusedTrack, but I think it should also work…


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                                        VoiGAS Silver Members
                                        last edited by VoiGAS 29 Jul 2024, 07:15

                                        Also after the supports actions it doesn’t work. My theory is that FusedTrack doesn’t exist anymore, at least not on S9 Peak https://forum.suunto.com/post/149960
                                        So this thread can be closed


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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @VoiGAS
                                          last edited by 30 Jul 2024, 17:13

                                          @VoiGAS said in FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km:

                                          Also after the supports actions it doesn’t work. My theory is that FusedTrack doesn’t exist anymore, at least not on S9 Peak https://forum.suunto.com/post/149960
                                          So this thread can be closed

                                          I checked an old manual I have against a new one, you are correct. I will test this by tomorrow. I have my 9Peak and Suunto 9baro charging to see if both behave the same way. I’ll report back here for you.

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