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      Philip Bronze Member
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      New update from July from Suunto is great I think, like the new way of editing watchfaces and other things.

      However this morning I did a route a made with the Suunto app. The turn to turn messages are still very early to come, but I can live with that. Now after the update I saw that you can see the distance to the next turning point, which is a big positive. But today I experienced that a few times this went really wrong, because the distance was growing at a moment I was getting nearer to the turning point. So I turned back because I thought I was wrong, and than the distance on the watched was diminishing but than a little further it was growing much higher, so I had to turn back in the right direction I was initially following.

      Has anyone else experienced this now or in the past?

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        Egika Platinum Member @Philip
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        @Philip I have not seen this. But the watch will reverse the route automatically if it detects that you are following it in reverse.
        Question is, why it was the wrong direction in the first place…
        Is this maybe a route that travels the same way in two directions? or is it a fully one-way route?

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Philip
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          @Philip I’ve tested routes a lot with this update and not seen this. Issues as @Egika stated. Was route one way? Was the route started backwards if two way? The route will reverse when you reverse directions.

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            Philip Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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            @Brad_Olwin Good to know you didn’t notice this problem in the recent update.

            I will give it another try this weekend. Kind regards. Philip

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              uranfl @Philip
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              @Philip i had same problem in last activity. Moving to next turning point but the distance was increasing.

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                duffman19 @Philip
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                @Philip said in Problems with following a route after the update:

                Has anyone else experienced this now or in the past?

                Yes, I’ve seen it on every route I’ve used since the update (4 or 5 now).

                As others mentioned, the watch will automatically try to detect if you are doing the route in reverse. I believe the problem is that all of the things that need to do the reversing – the light blue directional arrow on the map, the distance to next turn/POI, the elevation graph, and the “Off route/On route” pop-ups – don’t seem to coordinate or reverse at the same time.

                Most of my routes for testing are loops that start and end in the same place, so the watch has to guess whether I’m at the start or end of the route (same location) and go from there. Half the time it thinks I’m following the route as planned, half the time it thinks I’m following reverse.

                My observations from when the watch needs to reverse course:

                • The blue directional arrow on the map is the first item to correctly reverse itself, usually within 30m of traveling what the watch thinks is the opposite direction.
                • The “tooth” info, however, does not update at the same time and will continue to show the info for the turn that is behind you with increasing distance (as observed by others above).
                • The tooth and turn info will finally correct itself within another 30m or so, showing decreasing distance to the next turn/POI.
                • Meanwhile, the “Off Route / Back on Route” notifications do not always appear. Sometimes they will pop-up after the above, sometimes not.
                • The elevation graph seems to update in time with the blue arrow, so rather quickly.

                I have also observed strange behavior when using the Climb Guidance. While following an out and back route with downhills out and uphills back, the CG would sometimes incorrectly show uphills instead of downhills and vice versa, but not always. At first I assumed the navigation had reversed and it was showing me the CG for the opposite direction (understandable), but it had not. The blue arrow, turn info, and larger elevation graph were all correct. So there may be an issue with CG and routes that overlap.

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                  Egika Platinum Member @Philip
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                  @Philip said in Problems with following a route after the update:

                  @Brad_Olwin Good to know you didn’t notice this problem in the recent update.

                  I will give it another try this weekend. Kind regards. Philip

                  Can you let us know if the route was a fully one-directional one or if it had overlapping out and back sections?

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                    uranfl @Egika
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                    @Egika my route has overlaping sections, but the issue happend on the section without overlap

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                      Philip Bronze Member @Egika
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                      @Egika het was een route zonder overlapping, vandaag heb ik het probleem opnieuw gehad tijdens een andere wandelroute die ik via de Suunto app heb gemaakt, ik heb er beelden van gemaakt

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                        Philip Bronze Member @duffman19
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                        @duffman19 I had the same experience today again

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                          ThatNorwegianGuy
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                          I can confirm the same. In my case the start and end is very close to each other at the trail head. From there the route is up/down to the top of the hill.

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                            Philip Bronze Member @ThatNorwegianGuy
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                            @ThatNorwegianGuy I tried the maps again today and noticed again the same problem. The watch counts more distance to go to the next turning point, in reality you are coming nearer and nearer to the turning point…

                            Confusing I must say… Hoped this was solved.

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