"Training to hard" - recovery phases are calculated much too long for me
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Training too hard - recovery phases calculated too long
Hello everyone,
I’m new here and am looking forward to exchanging ideas with you - I’ve had a Suunto Race for about 3 months and am actually very happy with it (apart from a few minor issues).
The following problem/question:
My app usually indicates that I am training too hard, it shows “Training too hard” and the recovery phases are calculated much too long for me.
Example: After a 150km bike ride (in Zone2/3), the app shows me a recovery time of 120h, which is clearly too much for me. 50 hours would be more appropriate for an activity of this length and intensity and would correspond to how I feel.
As a result, the app constantly thinks I’m overtrained because I’m not keeping to my recovery periods.
Is there a solution to this problem?
For info: my weekly cycling workload is between 200-500km, but I pay meticulous attention to the recovery phases (depending on the intensity, I only do 24-48h up to max Z2 after an interval training session).
Many thanks in advance
Kind regards
Daniel -
@Daniel-Schuster It seems the recovery time is not taking into account all relevant factors like fitness level etc. What’s worry some is that Suunto so far seems to be removing this great functionality instead of developing and improving it. Ie.: they removed summarised remaining recovery time.
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@t0mazz0 you can still see recovery time inside each activity’s data.
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@Daniel-Schuster it could be that the watch needs longer to gauge what is ‘normal’ for you.
I would have thought 3 months would be enough but others may know more.
I have used various watches/computers over the years and they always seem to over estimated the recovery. I don’t really take much notice. I know I’m tired because I’m tired
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One other point to consider is that the recovery time is the time to complete recovery - but that’s rarely what you want when training. If you waited until fully recovered before your next workout you’d not really progress in your training. The only time you’d want to take the full recovery time is if tapering for a season highlight race.
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@Daniel-Schuster I Daniel ! Can you tel us more ? Are you using a hr belt and have you set properly you’re hr zones ? Otherwise can you check how your tss is calculated for your bike activities ? If « met » calculation for instance, it can overestimate the tss of your activities which are long ones, and then lead to « overtraining » even if you’re not
I don’t really pay attention to recovery time but more to my ffitness level : is not because you have long recovery time announced by your watch that you need it.
I would look to Ctl/tss…are you using it ?
I do a lot of trail running and cycling too. Cycling is most of the time at lower intensity than running, so atl will reduce faster after cycling
(The more you ctl I high the more you need tss (activity) to maintain it).For instance last Saturday I deed a long trail running race (yellow below) : recovery time announced for this activity was 120h but my fitness level is « high » so I was only in « productive phase » : I went cycling the day after (gently) as part of my training.
So I would not care to recuperation time announced, more to fitness level section of the app, it’s far more accurate and should work fine for you.
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I also met abnormal long recovery times (>40h) the first year I went on my usual skiing holidays on the Alps with my new Race. Day after day the Fatigue (TSS/d) skyrocket and at the end of the week I was supposed to be nearly dead …
