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    duffman19 @timecode
    last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 13:59

    @timecode said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

    not sure why people refer to this as a bug if it’s also displayed on the package of Race S. So clearly not a bug.

    True. Just a weird design choice.

    Vertical Ti

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      false Bronze Member @isazi
      last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 14:01

      @isazi Personally, I navigate so rarely that I was more than happy when the navigation menu was off because I don’t need it on my runs. But since a few updates ago (two, I guess), breadcrumbs have always been on by default (I still believe it’s a software bug). I also wonder for whom such a ‘default’ could be useful. From what I see in running, biking, and trail running accounts on the internet, people usually go from A to B or in a circle, but very rarely back and forth. So maybe if you go deep into the forest to harvest some mushrooms and berries or hike, breadcrumbs might be useful for you, I don’t know…

      And what if a user uses route navigation once, why should that be remembered?

      Because of the same reason why the choice between an optical HR sensor, HR belt, feeling, autolaps, etc., is saved from one activity to another. The answer here is consistency

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        jussim Bronze Member @false
        last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 14:15

        @false said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

        Could anyone tell me if they fixed the always-on breadcrumb option? I mean, on the pre-activity screen, the breadcrumb is always turned on (for the last two releases), even if you didn’t use it during your previous activity

        Doesn’t remember the setting, just as speculated 👎

        @isazi said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

        No, I do not even think it is a bug, it is just one option that is not remembered and breadcrumbs is the default.

        An odd decision, I must say. My argument against it that if you make a custom sports mode for track running, what’s the use for navigation?

        Unless of course Suunto were to somehow leverage it into a proper track mode like seen on competitor’s watches to provide exact 400 m laps 😊

        9PP since 09-2025.

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          herlas Silver Members @false
          last edited by herlas 9 Apr 2024, 14:24 4 Sept 2024, 14:23

          @false @isazi I agree here, if the navigation not being remembered is not a bug, then it’s a decision taken couple of firmwares back, for me it’s going to disable it every single time 🙂

          Remembering what was used is a far better approach. That way users can have their sports modes where they use navigation turned on, and in others (road running) where you don’t necessarily use it, turned off.

          Any time you introduce extra steps needed to be taken, user experience decreases.

          I’d vote to revert this to previous behavior 🙂

          SRS Ti
          A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
          Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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            isazi Moderator @herlas
            last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 14:27

            @herlas you are not alone, it has even been requested internally. But, it is not a simple binary setting. What I guess makes sense for you is not remember the navigation setting, but only the off navigation setting. I do not see any point in remember route, POI, and snap-to-route navigation settings for example, users would just be surprised why did they get an “off route” message first thing after starting an activity.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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              herlas Silver Members @isazi
              last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 14:34

              @isazi yes, default breadcrumb is fine those who will use navigation, they can select whatever they want to navigate with, case being made here, when you don’t navigate at all, you have a extra screen you don’t use, so we have to turn off navigation every single time.

              I’d like to see this offered in a feature SW update.

              SRS Ti
              A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
              Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tami999
                last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 15:30

                @Tami999 Not a bug, these are design changes. I believe that color will be coming to some of the complications, this is the start and will make watch faces faster and easier to develop so they are not tied to firmware updates.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  Tami999 Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by Tami999 9 Apr 2024, 16:35 4 Sept 2024, 16:09

                  @Brad_Olwin but i noticed it only happena to Vertical watchface. I changed for many others, like Race watchface and colors works. Not gonna lie my favourite watchface is changed and i dont like it white 😞

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                    orzechszek @herlas
                    last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 16:25

                    @herlas said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

                    Remembering what was used is a far better approach. That way users can have their sports modes where they use navigation turned on, and in others (road running) where you don’t necessarily use it, turned off.

                    Great idea, but… when amount of defined sport modes will increase 😄
                    Why there is a limit in amount of user defined sport modes? Because of architecture or memory? Memory in Race/Vertical seems not be a problem now?

                    Watch: Suunto Race S

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                      vlado
                      last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 16:31

                      When is this expected to come to Ocean?

                      Suunto Ocean
                      Suunto Vertical Solar Canyon
                      Suunto Ambit 3 peak Sapphire

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                        duffman19
                        last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 16:47

                        Turn-by-turn notifications are still f-ed up.

                        If you scroll forward (short middle button press) to the map screen, yes, tbt notifications are now only a vibration/beep, not full screen. If you scroll backward (long middle button press) to the map screen, the notifications are full screen again, same as always. Scrolling forward all the way back through the screens seems to fix it… for awhile. Eventually full screen notifications will pop up again, for no apparent reason.

                        Seems the simple code “fix” was to cancel the on-screen notifications when scrolling to the map screen so we’re left with just the “tooth” directions (which were already there). But someone forgot that we can scroll both directions now.

                        And, Suunto, please. Why, why, why, why are we still getting turn notifications for the NEXT turn when we are at the CURRENT turn? If there is anybody anywhere who can tell me why this makes sense, I’ll shut up about it. This has to be the simplest fix. When we get the end of a route it shows “END.” So when we get to a turn, show us that turn! I know you can do it, Suunto.

                        Vertical Ti

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                          Ecki D. Bronze Member
                          last edited by Ecki D. 9 May 2024, 08:33 4 Sept 2024, 16:54

                          Ah no sniff 😢 seems like they fixed the tweak where one can install more than 15 SuuntoPlus apps. Have to re-check later.
                          Would be great to have e.g. 20 as an option.

                          Anyway great update!
                          Hope there will be more watch faces soon

                          A complication, showing dualtime + date + battery would be great.

                          I still miss the info that was featured on the old Outdoors watchface, before the complications arrived.

                          https://www.strava.com/athletes/37982563
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                            Stefano M64 Silver Members
                            last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 17:29

                            Installed on both Race and Race S without problems, I confirm that some watch syncs are needed in order to have all the watchfaces loaded to the watch. The new Stratum face is very nice with its 3d effect
                            I hope that a complication to be tapped with several fields will be reintroduced, it’s the only thing I miss.

                            Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                              Александр Даниленко @duffman19
                              last edited by Александр Даниленко 9 Apr 2024, 22:10 4 Sept 2024, 17:35

                              @duffman19 fully agree about turn notification.

                              Next turn in 1 km…I won’t remember where I should turn when I move 1 km forward, but I need to know where I need to turn right now. But when I try to figure it out, reaching the turn, the watch shows me next. It is annoying.

                              Suunto Race S

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                                larrybbaker @Jonas Vestberg
                                last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 18:13

                                @Jonas-Vestberg does that circle change as the battery runs down?

                                SV Solar
                                iPhone 16 Pro

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                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 19:39

                                  Hello everyone, What a pleasant surprise!
                                  I have just ordered my vertical solar titanium (+ a UTMB bracelet 😍) and I see this update which looks promising to me. I’m due to receive my watch on Friday and I can’t wait to try it on.
                                  I have a question for which I cannot find an answer. During scheduled training sessions, does the watch display the series number during the transition and is there a countdown with an audible signal warning of the approach of a change of exercise or transition (at Garmin there are 5 beeps prior)

                                  Thanks a lot

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                                    SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 20:01

                                    I installed the new firmware without problems on my SV, and the first run this evening showed no problems, especially I recognized a normal battery consumption.
                                    As @Tami999 said before, the new solar widget is too small, and the wording is useless because Inthink everybody can understand the symbol without any words! The old one was much better!

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                                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium (owns my wife now)
                                    Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                    SA iOS 2.43.0 (18473)
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                                      Александр Даниленко
                                      last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 20:30

                                      Watchface customization is great option we have now. But sometimes it doesn’t look good 😅 (overlaps):
                                      1000031771.jpg

                                      Suunto Race S

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                                        sartoric Moderator @Александр Даниленко
                                        last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 20:59

                                        @Александр-Даниленко
                                        For that wf it could be by design … it should looks like a sketch

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                                          Александр Даниленко
                                          last edited by 4 Sept 2024, 21:34

                                          This graphical bug still exists on S9PP:
                                          1000031778.jpg

                                          Suunto Race S

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