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Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3)

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    isazi Moderator @TheGlassWolf
    last edited by 5 Sept 2024, 14:00

    @TheGlassWolf no official timeline, I would bet on Q4 2024, but do not know.

    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

    Blog: isazi's home

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      EzioAuditore Gold Members @TheGlassWolf
      last edited by EzioAuditore 9 May 2024, 14:32 5 Sept 2024, 14:18

      @TheGlassWolf The only thing I miss here is the climb guidance, nothing more. I find the Ocean to be stable as rock compared to all the other watches (Suunto or not). I have to admit I have not used the dive features as much as I would like (life being a life) but I will surely do so in the coming months.
      Update: Oh and the computing of Lactate and Vo2Max with belt 🙂

      Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
      Suunto Wing

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        Maximfreediver @EzioAuditore
        last edited by 5 Sept 2024, 16:27

        Guys and where is the list of dives in freediving mode? There is no list after update. Can someone show pics of how it should be?

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          Maximfreediver @Maximfreediver
          last edited by 5 Sept 2024, 17:35

          I mean before update i can see a list of freedives , but after it disappeared…

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            danieleridoo
            last edited by 5 Sept 2024, 20:17

            I’m happy to hear that the compass feature was finally included during scuba mode. I have been on the fence about this dive watch.

            I do however have a problem with the lack of costumization on the dive screen. Is it really true that compass heading and tank pressure cannot be displayed simultaneously on the screen? If not, I will not be getting this watch as continuously scrolling through menus takes too much attention while diving.

            I would like it if it just showed an arrow towards north around the edge of the screen. Just displaying a heading is not good enough!

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              ogillot @pavel.samokha
              last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 10:19

              @pavel-samokha said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

              New options to adjust the safety stop and how TTS is calculated during decompression dives

              Does anyone has some details on that improvement ?

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Maximfreediver
                last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 15:11

                @Maximfreediver If you are talking about in the watch, after an update the logs should still be there but with minimal information. The dives should be present in the app. Have you synced with the app yet? If you had dives on the watch make sure you fully sync before an update or you will lose unsynced exercises. Typically the watch or app will warn you to sync before you update.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  diogao13 Bronze Member @danieleridoo
                  last edited by diogao13 9 Jun 2024, 22:46 6 Sept 2024, 17:04

                  @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                  I do however have a problem with the lack of costumization on the dive screen. Is it really true that compass heading and tank pressure cannot be displayed simultaneously on the screen? If not, I will not be getting this watch as continuously scrolling through menus takes too much attention while diving.

                  It is still an issue for divers using tank pod. Here there is a thread about it:
                  https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11091/update-on-dive-mode-screen

                  @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                  I would like it if it just showed an arrow towards north around the edge of the screen. Just displaying a heading is not good enough!

                  The new dive compass now need an update to also include a new screen having a “regular compass” and additional info.

                  Something like below examples would be great.
                  1000141394.jpg
                  Garmin MK3

                  1000141518.jpg
                  Shearwater Teric

                  1000141519.jpg
                  Scubapro G3

                  1000141516.jpg
                  Apple Watch Oceanic Plus

                  1000141517.png
                  Huawei Watch Ultimate

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                    Simon Mongeau @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 18:32

                    @Brad_Olwin Even my Olympus TG-5 has a better compass, and its not a compass company!

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                      sacrevache Bronze Member
                      last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 19:56

                      I dived with the new software today and I wish it had delivered more value to customers.

                      I think it’s safe to say that ALL owners of the Ocean should still count themselves as early adopters. This is a device with great potential that is not matched by its software.

                      The screens are attractive and readable but the user experience remains clunky and unsophisticated*. I am so frustrated by clicking through a long list of fields (that just got longer) when I’ve no interest in many/most. Especially so when I accidentally overshoot and need to go through them all again. The compass that’s added to this list is only marginally more useful than a chocolate teapot - every diver that needs a compass is still going to have to take an additional device to overcome this glaring - like GLARING - shortcoming in a premium device from a very experienced company that should know better.

                      There are a few excellent mock ups on here that lean into the Suunto design language without copying competitors. I think it’s obvious that two of the data fields need to be variable and controlled in real time via the buttons (e.g. button 1 - field 1, button 2 - field 2, button 3 - Arch). I really don’t need to change the brightness mid-dive, lock the buttons, nor switch gases (but get that others might). If this drops something necessary maybe additional screens are needed and button function varies by screen.

                      Additional customisation in settings or via the app would be good - in particular turning off data items that are just clutter (I don’t want the clock really, PPO2 may not be needed if all you want is the no-deco info, etc…).

                      *I will not have a pop at the Suunto app here but that’s another example of largely pretty but woefully under-capable aspect of the Suunto ecosystem.

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                        danieleridoo @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 20:06

                        @Brad_Olwin @sacrevache

                        Yes, you are both right!!

                        Just look at the compass on my 6 year old Suunto Eon. It is miles better than what the Ocean offers:

                        SuuntoEon.jpg

                        You are right, @Brad_Olwin , they need to make the dive screen customizable.

                        Yes, @sacrevache, I saw this YouTube video showing what you are descibing.

                        I was holding back on this computer, but after seeing what Suunto has come up with after so many months of the anticipated compass, I got so tired of waiting that I ordered a Shearwater Peregrine Tx today and will not look at Suunto for a while. This has been such a let down and such a shame since the Ocean is so beautiful and has a great display and great feautres.

                        I hope Suunto will see this and do better!

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                          danieleridoo @diogao13
                          last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 20:19

                          @diogao13
                          This is hilarious after I found out that it is a digital camera.

                          https://youtu.be/yFijwwocY4Y?si=gaFcmIlIon5WL1Iy&t=67

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                            diogao13 Bronze Member @danieleridoo
                            last edited by 6 Sept 2024, 21:25

                            @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                            @diogao13
                            This is hilarious after I found out that it is a digital camera.

                            https://youtu.be/yFijwwocY4Y?si=gaFcmIlIon5WL1Iy&t=67

                            🤣🤷🏻

                            I still hope that Suunto will revert this situation in future firmwares. The hardware is great (screen and battery are amazing), the software includes a lot of good features, but still needs a lot of polishing and improvements.

                            Just an example. Considering Suunto expertise with RGBM algorithm, there should be an option for the user to choose: Suunto Bühlmann, pure Bühlmann, or Suunto RGBM.

                            Why did they abandon RGBM?
                            Why did they choose that beautiful, but poor screen layout?

                            Probably diving activity is not the main focus. I don’t know…

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                              Maximfreediver @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by 7 Sept 2024, 05:34

                              @Brad_Olwin found, thanks. As for application Suunto, i want to step in each certain dive, but i can’t. I only see table and graphic.

                              Hope that you add it in next updates

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                                Frank Scholer
                                last edited by 7 Sept 2024, 08:19

                                Hi everyone,

                                I see the update as available in the Suunto app and it says, it could take some time to download. However there‘s no progress and I gave it the whole night to complete the download, but nothing. Pressing the ‚Update Now‘ button doesnt do anything…

                                As I am currently on diving holiday, I would love to get the update! Any idea what I can do to force or expedite the download/installation?

                                Thanks Frank

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                                  danieleridoo @diogao13
                                  last edited by 7 Sept 2024, 20:02

                                  @diogao13 Indeed. So many questions and very few answers. Suunto lost and oppurtunity to make a great product from launch!

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                                    diogao13 Bronze Member @Frank Scholer
                                    last edited by 8 Sept 2024, 00:58

                                    @Frank-Scholer,

                                    • check your watch is connected with the app via Bluetooth
                                    • in the app, check that your watch is connected to wi-fi
                                    • start the update in the app to transfer the file to the watch (the update is a hotfix, the download takes less than a minute)
                                    • go to update settings in the watch and starts the 2nd step of the update procedure
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                                      Simon Mongeau
                                      last edited by Simon Mongeau 13 Sept 2024, 14:53

                                      @diogao13 said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                                      issue for divers using tank pod. Here there is a thread about it:

                                      It would be nice to remove some information on the “trash bin” in the bottom, even without customization.
                                      I mean: there is no point of having air pressure, SAC rate AND Gaz time when I don’t have a Tank pod!

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                                        diogao13 Bronze Member @Simon Mongeau
                                        last edited by diogao13 14 Sept 2024, 11:13

                                        @Simon-Mongeau, exactly.

                                        Having more info on the screen, it could automatically present only the remaining infos on the switch window.

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                                          Arturro @diogao13
                                          last edited by 7 Oct 2024, 20:26

                                          Hi, there is a problem with measuring distance in open water swimming. I just bought Suunto Ocean, I have been using Spartan Ultra for 6 years, mainly ocean swimming over 4000 times. I compared Suunto Ocean with two other computers, how they handle ocean swimming and the results are surprising https://youtu.be/WLeTcv6Fqxw?si=b0ZBoaW8zeVbFK_l , Ocean was the worst… Ocean has a software problem. I tried 7 times, the results are always wrong.

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