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    far-blue Bronze Member
    last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 22:54

    As zoneSense is an app does it behave in the same way as the Stryd app in that its connection to the device is independent of the watch native pairing? And does that mean that the zoneSense app effectively highjacks the HR datastream?

    I’m just wondering for 2 reasons:

    firstly, if using zoneSense can you then not use structured workouts that are based on HR zones (because the HR data isn’t available) or does the watch resort to using the OHR? Because when you shift stryd to pair to the stryd app you then couldn’t use power based zones unless you relied on the built-in support. At the time I had a 5 Peak which doesn’t do native power which basically meant no power zones if you wanted to use the stryd app.

    secondly, to fix this possible issue, does this mean you can theoretically have an OHR armband paired to the watch for normal HR (rather than use the built-in OHR) and then also the chest strap paired to the zoneSense app for the zoneSense stuff? Or even the same chest strap paired twice (assuming the chest strap supports multi-device pairing)?

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      herlas Silver Members @far-blue
      last edited by herlas 21 Sept 2024, 00:13

      @far-blue S+ ZoneSense app is a regular type, meaning it’s not a device type like Stryd S+, so there’s no connecting directly to the HR sensor and belt here.

      Whatever HR-based structured workout you have can continue executing.
      Limit being one S+ app and one Suunto guide at a single time.

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        TrailEyes Gold Members @sartoric
        last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 01:44

        @sartoric During a demonstration webinar, they referenced that ZS won’t work for certain stop-and-go activities (I think they used Ultimate Frisbee as the example, but i cant remember for sure) because you never really establish that initial consistent 10-minute body calibration. I assume that would be the same issue with a martial arts workout – it’s not a sufficiently stabilized cardio workout for ZS to function.

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          TyreseJ4
          last edited by TyreseJ4 21 Sept 2024, 01:55

          So I saw this feature and thought “this looks like fun, lemme pull my Suunto 9 out and test it.” LOL I just cannot trust Suunto devices. When you try and activate this feature it either crashes the watch or the feature turns itself off. BTW when I test my Suunto 9 I never take it out for a real activity. This is just turning it on and messing around with it. My Suunto 9 used to be rock solid until they broke it with that update that added intervals. This is why I love Garmin. Their products are simply more reliable. It seems Suunto abandoned the Suunto 9 when it was evident that they couldn’t stop the crashing with a stable firmware. 😟

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            herlas Silver Members @TyreseJ4
            last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 02:25

            @TyreseJ4 S+ ZoneSense isn’t supported 9 Baro, there’s no memory for it, guessing it’ll be updated to make it unavailable for Incompatible watches. S9PP, SV, SR and SRS are the ones compatible.

            This is extrictly talking about the S+ app, post workout analysis everyone with a Suunto watch will get in SA.

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              gone troppo Bronze Member @herlas
              last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 05:21

              Hi I have a suunto vertical and use polar h10 hr strap. Why does my suunto app not have zone sense on it like other peoples pictures or their apps?

              Very frustrating I’m not very tech savvy and being left behind trying to work out how to get this on my app it should be automatic

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                Mff73 @sartoric
                last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 06:59

                @sartoric said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                It’s seems that ZS doesn’t work for App recorded activities … or it is the specific activity type (martial arts)

                Did you use RR HR belt? I may think yes 😉.
                So, my theory is, that SA, as a recorder, doesn’t record RR (but didn’t check)
                Is there RE data in the fit file exported from SA?

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                  gone troppo Bronze Member @Mff73
                  last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 10:11

                  Can anyone please tell me why I’m the only person out of 140 posts who doesn’t have zone sense on their suunto app? What do I have to do to get this thing to show on the app? Please help

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                    taziden Gold Members
                    last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 10:19

                    Decided to use ZoneSense S+ app this morning for my long trail run after using it 2 days ago during a run. To my surprise, the ZS app wasn’t showing any ZS related number on the default first screen (only – --). The gauge was moving though and I could see other number (pace, hr) on other pages of the ZS app.
                    After the run, I checked and ZS data was available in SA. So … weird.

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                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @gone troppo
                      last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 10:20

                      @gone-troppo are you using Suunto hr strap ? If yes you should see Suunto zonesens on new or previous activities when you have used strap.
                      If not, you don’t see zonesens.
                      Of course you need to use last SA update

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                        Mauerwegler @TyreseJ4
                        last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 10:51

                        @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                        My Suunto 9 used to be rock solid until they broke it with that update that added intervals. […] It seems Suunto abandoned the Suunto 9 when it was evident that they couldn’t stop the crashing with a stable firmware. 😟

                        You could downgrade to the older firmware prior to the „added intervals“. This forum has threads about downgrading and where to find the firmware.

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                          surfboomerang
                          last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 11:04

                          Am I missing something?

                          I did a 1:15hr run this morning. During the run, zone sense showed me that I trained in multiple zones.
                          After a sync, the activity in Suunto app shows me that I trained 100% in the aerobic zone.

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                            SamuelP Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                            last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 11:16

                            @surfboomerang i had the same on my first exercise. Second exercise showed accurate live values on the watch. It needs some calibration and gets more accurate over time.

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                              dmcdmc @surfboomerang
                              last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 11:20

                              @surfboomerang same situation for me. Sensezone woking quite well during actitvity but later on app it onlye shows all green and blue as aerobic.

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                                Swaddy61 Silver Members @gone troppo
                                last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 12:42

                                @gone-troppo Have a look in the ‘ZoneSense’ Thread under ‘Suunto App’ (not Sports Apps). It was explained to me clearly there how to find it.

                                Sorry, I don’t know how to link other threads here!

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                                  the_ultraman
                                  last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 12:56

                                  It doesn’t show very accurately when running uphill or downhill. It showed the lowest aerobic level when I was running uphill in my zone 4 at 15 percent incline.

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                                    Richard Thygesen
                                    last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 13:14

                                    Really interesting. Sad that I’m unable to use it.
                                    Haven’t owned a heart rate strap that works for me.

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                                      TyreseJ4 @Mauerwegler
                                      last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 17:18

                                      @Mauerwegler Link?

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                                        SuuntoR Bronze Member @dmcdmc
                                        last edited by 21 Sept 2024, 18:46

                                        @dmcdmc same here after first 11km run. Will have to test some more if it calibrates. I think the data shown on the watch was better reflecting how I felt during the run.

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                                          althaea35 Bronze Member @the_ultraman
                                          last edited by althaea35 21 Sept 2024, 19:21

                                          @the_ultraman

                                          I found a comment on Facebook from Janne Kallio

                                          "You have this week received the new Suunto Zonesense analysis. To learn the background, science, examples of this ground breaking tech… spend an hour on our zonesense lecture.

                                          Note, there has been some weird / different behaviour on real time measurement vs afger analysis in few specifc scenarios, there will be upcoming mobile update which will fix this. There was a bug that awas left on release, but will be fixed soonish."

                                          https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tAAGoDRCb2PJ96Mf/?mibextid=oFDknk

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