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    SalvaGali
    last edited by 28 Jan 2025, 06:22

    Hi! I bought a race s a week ago, and started working with the zonesense feature. I understand how it works, and that the threasholds are not static. I have a few questionnfor you guys:

    • During my easy runs this week, i got a measured aeT of around 130 bpm, which it seems in line with where i thought it might be. On suneay i run my local 10k and despite i can check the zonesense graph, it does not provide any measured aeT. Any explanation for this? I did a 10-12 min warming up before the race in order to get the zonesense calculate threasholds.
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    • When looking at the graph from the 10k, i can see that the change from green to yellow seems to be somewhere near the 160 bpm, far away from the usual 130. It seems to me that this value has been afected for not being an easy run (despite the previous 12 min warmup? Is it posible?
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    • In order to have a measurement of the anT, do i need to get to that intensity?
      Thank you!

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      herlas Silver Members @SalvaGali
      last edited by 28 Jan 2025, 17:28

      @SalvaGali https://forum.suunto.com/post/161391

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        Sportsfreund Bronze Member @thanasis
        last edited by Sportsfreund 30 Jan 2025, 05:51

        In my case ZS is absolutely not in time. Always after mainrace in cooldown mode the Display shows value changes between the 3 zones.

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          Leonid Yasyukevich
          last edited by 30 Jan 2025, 20:33

          I trust the laboratory test more, which for an amateur is desirable to do once every two years. Lactate is a key parameter in the measurement, our top runners measure it right in training.
          In any case, Suunto has a lot of beta testers and time to test this feature👨‍🔬

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            tschogo
            last edited by 1 Feb 2025, 23:15

            Hi there! Can you confirm for zonesense to properly work, you first need to put in some (how many?) workouts or minutes (which of both?) at each of the 5 zones? And basically ignore zonesense during this calbration workout(s)? I’m asking as today I was running a 10k (probably my 3 workout with a HR belt and zonesense enabled) and wanted to do it in zone 2, but (almost) regardless of what HR I ran at, the DDFA-index stayed green: alt text, alt text. On the other hand, it seems that zonesense was able to calculated my aet correctly, still. This is a bit confusing to me. Any help is much appreciated, thanks!

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              thanasis Bronze Member @Leonid Yasyukevich
              last edited by thanasis 2 Feb 2025, 07:57 2 Feb 2025, 07:50

              @Brad_Olwin can you help me with why this happens ?

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              While the app seems to be running it also shows waiting for data

              Also the there is a big difference in the data in the watch ( eg I had some 5-6min the red zone ) while in the app the duration is 0

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                Sportsfreund Bronze Member @thanasis
                last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 08:20

                @thanasis Yes, this ZoneSense is not really usable yet. Live data does not work. Only after the activity in the app.

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                  thanasis Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
                  last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 08:33

                  @Sportsfreund I think what is being mentioned here is that some people like @Brad_Olwin are using the real time zonesense instead of HR zones . If the watch and the app are so much different there needs to be an explanation

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                    Sportsfreund Bronze Member @thanasis
                    last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 08:41

                    @thanasis Who knows. In my case live data does not work. For example, last week I did Cooper test, all the time while running the vertical showed green aerobe, after running in the last minutes off cool down the graph changed into the other zones.

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                      VoiGAS Silver Members @Sportsfreund
                      last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 09:40

                      @Sportsfreund Yes, I have the same behaviour. After washing the belt the quality of the data looks much better, but still the live data just stays green. I ordered a new belt - maybe this helps.
                      I would also love to hear some long term real life experience with using Zonesense during the run


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                        ChrisA Platinum Member @Sportsfreund
                        last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 10:11

                        @Sportsfreund If I run steadily and slowly in a aerobic zone and then change to walking, stop suddenly or even just fiddle with my phone, I can feel my HR rising and my heart beating more intense for some time after. Perhaps Zonesense „senses“ this changes in HRV and how your body tries to find homeostasis and therefore the change?

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                          GiPFELKiND Silver Members @thanasis
                          last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 11:11

                          @thanasis do you have “running” a Second suunto+ App while running? Tey to deactivate the Second one and the Zonesense data should be visible correct

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                            Sportsfreund Bronze Member @VoiGAS
                            last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 13:10

                            @VoiGAS my belt is very new. Bought it last week.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @thanasis
                              last edited by Brad_Olwin 2 Feb 2025, 13:28 2 Feb 2025, 13:26

                              @thanasis said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                              @Brad_Olwin can you help me with why this happens ?
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                              While the app seems to be running it also shows waiting for data

                              Also the there is a big difference in the data in the watch ( eg I had some 5-6min the red zone ) while in the app the duration is 0

                              The watch is not receiving data.
                              The belt must record electric changes NOT OHR.
                              The belt must provide good R-R data
                              Delete and reinstall the Suunto Plus ZS app from phone and watch
                              At the beginning of your exercise 10 min of aerobic warm up is required before live ZS is displayed.

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Sportsfreund
                                last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 13:27

                                @Sportsfreund what belt?

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @VoiGAS
                                  last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 13:29

                                  @VoiGAS said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                  @Sportsfreund Yes, I have the same behaviour. After washing the belt the quality of the data looks much better, but still the live data just stays green. I ordered a new belt - maybe this helps.
                                  I would also love to hear some long term real life experience with using Zonesense during the run

                                  I have been using and testing ZS since last May/June. Is that long term enough?

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 14:22

                                    @Brad_Olwin Suunto Belt sowie Polar H10 belt. Both same. I can’t belief that you get real live values when all other users don’t get it.

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                                      VoiGAS Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 15:13

                                      @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                      I have been using and testing ZS since last May/June. Is that long term enough?

                                      Absolutly. How reliable are your live values on the watch? Can you use it to pace an ultra from the start or does it need more time to “swing in”? Not to mention the first 10 Minutes, its clear that it shows nothing


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                                      Ambit3 Vertical

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                                        thanasis Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 15:20

                                        @Brad_Olwin @GiPFELKiND It seems that the issue is not occurring by removing fat burner app . Just FYI in case someone else finds themselves in the same situation
                                        The watch does record the data btw

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                                          VoiGAS Silver Members @thanasis
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2025, 15:26

                                          @thanasis Interesting, I had one SuuntoGuide running parallel. Will try without it.
                                          Post workout data looked ok, so I think its not the belts fault


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