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    Mirek_R @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 23 Sept 2024, 16:54

    @Brad_Olwin I am using Garmin HRM Pro Plus.

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      cosme.costa @Mirek_R
      last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 07:45

      @Mirek_R said in ZoneSense bug:

      @Brad_Olwin I am using Garmin HRM Pro Plus.

      Check your belt, could be faulty. Not the sensor but the belt.
      If the belt readings are not good ZoneSense won’t work correctly. Check the HR graph and see if there are sudden spikes or out of range values.

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        dulko79 @cosme.costa
        last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 08:00

        @cosme-costa Heart rate variability chart in Runalyze could also be used as indicator if the belt is broken? If there is a lot of noise in the chart if belt is broken?

        App: beta
        Phone: Iphone
        iOS

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          cosme.costa @dulko79
          last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 08:14

          @dulko79 I think so, there is also a % of anomalies value in the side of that graph that can give an indication. However I do not know with which % you can say that the belt is faulty or needs to be cleaned or… but can give an indication.

          In my opinion with ZoneSense we must change our way of thinking about the HR zones, this ZoneSense stuff is so promising and revolutionary that it blows my mind.

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            Mirek_R @cosme.costa
            last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 09:14

            @cosme-costa i have already checked graphs and I don’t see any anomalies…
            I made 14km long aerobic running today in aerobic zone and almost all time ZoneSense indicated anaerobic but now after synchronization in app 98% is aerobic what could corespond with reality (av. heart rate 138bpm). In my opinion there is something wrong in frontend because results after synchro seems OK.

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              cosme.costa @Mirek_R
              last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 10:26

              @Mirek_R said in ZoneSense bug:

              @cosme-costa i have already checked graphs and I don’t see any anomalies…
              I made 14km long aerobic running today in aerobic zone and almost all time ZoneSense indicated anaerobic but now after synchronization in app 98% is aerobic what could corespond with reality (av. heart rate 138bpm). In my opinion there is something wrong in frontend because results after synchro seems OK.

              It is really strange, try to softreset your watch and install/reinstall the Suunto Plus App. The tests that I did in trailrunning where pretty realistic compared with my feelings in the watch and app, I wore a Polar H10 strap.

              Did you run more suunto plus app’s? If that is yes try to load only the ZoneSense (to discard something).

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                Mirek_R @cosme.costa
                last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 10:46

                @cosme-costa I used two apps in same time. I will use ZoneSense only and will see if this helps. If not then uninstall/install ZoneSense. I realy care because I think it could be very helpful. Thanks for sugestions.

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                  SuuntoR Bronze Member @Mirek_R
                  last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 17:27

                  @Mirek_R or is it just this https://forum.suunto.com/post/154320 and will be fixed hopefully soon…

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                    Mff73 @Mirek_R
                    last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 17:38

                    @Mirek_R
                    Same bug today for me.
                    Climb S+ app in parallel to ZoneSense.
                    Gauges (circle and bar) stucked in anaerobic zone, but timers were counting “correctly” as per my feeling, and correct results are displayed in app after.

                    Vo2Max zone timer increasing but still orange tooth and circle
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                    Aerobic timer increasing
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                      Mirek_R @SuuntoR
                      last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 17:53

                      @SuuntoR Indeed, it looks the same. Another values “on fly” and another after synchonization. Let’s see if update will solve it.

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                        Mirek_R @Mff73
                        last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 17:56

                        @Mff73 I see there is topic ZoneSense - maybe moderator could move our posts there? I had same issue. It means it is not coincident. @Brad_Olwin

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                          halajos Bronze Member @Mff73
                          last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 19:29

                          @Mff73 my findings here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/154454

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                            far-blue Bronze Member
                            last edited by 24 Sept 2024, 22:39

                            I suspect there’s a chance the SuuntoPlus app is going to be using the data from the last sync as the basis for it’s live analysis because the watch might not have the computational power to crunch the full numbers directly. So I’d guess there’s a chance while it is learning about you that the suuntoplus app will be a bit out of whack for a few activities. Syncing with the phone app would allow the data to be re-analysed and then the suuntoplus app would be updated with better reference data for you for next time.

                            Just a thought.

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                              Mff73 @far-blue
                              last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 05:49

                              @far-blue
                              In the case of this bug, computation on the watch seems exactely the same as in app after sync (looking at times in zones). Just the display seems frozen in terms of graphics.

                              Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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                              Wife : S9PP
                              SA: Always the latest beta :)
                              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                The_77 Silver Members
                                last edited by The_77 25 Sept 2024, 07:48

                                Another with a ZoneSense bug - stuck on calibrating after ten minutes, so no pointer and display looked off. Was using that, Burner and a route.

                                Interestingly, at the end I switched to breadcrumb and it resolved the issue.

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                                /edit from 27.9

                                Different bug today, using it in conjunction with a route and S+ Pace loops - it wasn’t stuck on calibrating this time, but rather showed no time in zones, and didn’t want to show a value for NGP.

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                                  Mff73
                                  last edited by 27 Sept 2024, 05:55

                                  Too many posts about zonesense, I continue here for this bug (not related to race S as I have a SV).
                                  Run with only S+ ZoneSense yesterday (removing climb app) and nothing was stuck. Tends to prove, like others, a relation between ZS and other apps in parallel.

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                                  Wife : S9PP
                                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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