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    robinv
    last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 13:44

    Can anyone explain to me. I am really not a tec guy. But just bought my first dive watch. My main goal is for freediving,but ones in a while I enjoy scuba diving to. I used it no w times for freediving, but I noticed the moment I go in the water the gos stops tracking me… I’ve tried to look up information but as I said I am not really good with this modern technology…

    And my 2th issue is why can’t I control my music with my watch? I have the app I am concerned. It shows witch song is playing. But I can’t use any of the function…

    Please if anyone can explain to me in a easy way.

    Thanks a million times.
    Greetings Robin

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      flobby @robinv
      last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 18:15

      @robinv
      I can only answer you regarding GPS: the signal does not penetrate water, so no GPS device will work underwater.

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        Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @flobby
        last edited by Todd Danielczyk 10 Jan 2024, 18:29 1 Oct 2024, 18:23

        @flobby @robinv An interesting article about how to get around mapping underwater:
        https://www.zdnet.com/article/gps-and-water-dont-mix-so-scientists-have-found-a-new-way-to-navigate-under-the-sea/

        But yes, GPS signal will be obstructed in water, same with caves, dense tree coverage, etc. The newer watches tend to track much better in tree coverage and I got to test that out this summer, hiking a trail that I used my Baro 9 on previously. Much tighter tracking on the current Vertical.

        As for the music control, by chance are you using it with an Android device? For me (Android and Vertical) I cannot control the volume, track, pause, play and it just remains greyed out. I am currently not using the native music player so I just assumed it was due to that.

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          robinv @flobby
          last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 20:24

          @flobby but the Suunto ocean advertise you can track your dive’s route through GPS…

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            Ze Stuart Gold Members @robinv
            last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 20:29

            @robinv no, it can track a route underwater, using inertial navigation, but not using GPS. I believe it needs a position from a satellite constellation at the start and end of the dive, but there’s no way for the Ocean to receive radio waves under water.

            Short form, water is a lot more dense than air, and the surface is effectively reflective to radio waves.

            https://zulusierra.co

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              Audaxjoe
              last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 21:23

              I think a few Suunto watches have the music player issues. I have a Vertical. Sometimes the music control works perfectly.
              At others the controls are greyed out.

              It is annoying but Suunto are aware of the issue so hopefully it will be sorted soon.

              I’m on an Android phone and use Spotify for music.

              Suunto Vertical
              Suunto 9 BARO
              Garmin Fenix 3, 5
              Suunto Vector

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                Mff73 @Audaxjoe
                last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 05:28

                @Audaxjoe
                Is it linked to GPS under water? 🤔

                Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                Suunto Vertical all black
                Wife : S9PP
                SA: Always the latest beta :)
                Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                  BrunoH Gold Members @Mff73
                  last edited by BrunoH 10 Feb 2024, 06:15 2 Oct 2024, 06:13

                  @Mff73 If I was a designer I would turn GPS off when the pressure sensor says you’re descending, say 2 meters deep or more. It would save battery since GPS wouldn’t work anyway. But on the other hand the watch might get a GPS fix quicker when re-surfacing if it is always on… Someone might know for sure but I don’t know if they can tell.

                  EDIT: I think I misunderstood your question… You were talking about the media controls linked to underwater GPS… I can’t delete my post, which is weird.

                  Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                  Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                  Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                    Danny poleg Silver Members
                    last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 08:07

                    1. Media control on the watch - remove the app, reinstall and link the watch again
                    2. Regarding underwater location - the watch uses a gyroscope to determine the diving route in addition to the depth data
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                      Audaxjoe @Mff73
                      last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 20:48

                      @Mff73 haha not for me. The nearest my watch gets to going under water is in the rain.

                      I have tried the reinstall/soft reset etc. It works for a while. Then greys out again a few days later.

                      No real big deal for me, changing tracks on the headphones or phone is easier anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

                      Suunto Vertical
                      Suunto 9 BARO
                      Garmin Fenix 3, 5
                      Suunto Vector

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                        Ze Stuart Gold Members @Audaxjoe
                        last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 22:23

                        @Audaxjoe I think music player issues are a problem at the Bluetooth service layer, between the watch and the phone’s OS, and I’ve seen this issue with headphones losing the ability to play/pause music on Android, which is the same service. I’d go so far as to say I don’t believe this is necessarily a Suunto problem, given that I have experienced it with non-Suunto headphones.

                        https://zulusierra.co

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                          Mff73 @Audaxjoe
                          last edited by 4 Oct 2024, 06:03

                          @Audaxjoe said in Suunto ocean gps underwater.:

                          @Mff73 haha not for me. The nearest my watch gets to going under water is in the rain.

                          So why speaking about this, here, in this post?

                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                          Suunto Vertical all black
                          Wife : S9PP
                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                            Audaxjoe @Mff73
                            last edited by 4 Oct 2024, 12:11

                            @Mff73 As the music player is a much wider issue. It isn’t limited to being underwater or a specific watch.

                            Suunto Vertical
                            Suunto 9 BARO
                            Garmin Fenix 3, 5
                            Suunto Vector

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