Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)

Mattg576

@SuperFlo75 Race here but also updated to 2.39.20 & NOT .22

TrailEyes

@kriskus Oh thanks for spotting that! I’m colorblind, so unless I know to look for something more subtle like that, it doesn’t register with my eyes. So I hadn’t noticed that the one aligned at the middle button wasn’t the one that I’d be selecting.

I don’t like this approach at all.
(Edit: 2 soft resets may have gotten it back to normal)

pavel.samokha

@SuperFlo75 said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

@pavel-samokha My watch updated to 2.39.20? Not .22? I‘m on SV

Sorry, you’re correct it’s .20, I updated the title

Bogdan1921

My first feeling is that the menu it’s a little bit lagish, but I will see in the next future how it will work…

Egika

@TrailEyes said in Software update 2.39.22 (2024 Q4):

@kriskus Oh thanks for spotting that! I’m colorblind, so unless I know to look for something more subtle like that, it doesn’t register with my eyes. So I hadn’t noticed that the one aligned at the middle button wasn’t the one that I’d be selecting.

I don’t like this approach at all.

your whole control panel scrolling is weird. mine goes up on the screen when scrolling down, so that the selected item actually is in the middle and the whole screen is used.
I don’t have the big black area staying in place like you

TrailEyes

@Egika just did my second soft reset, and it appears to be back to normal. 1 reset alone didn’t work 🫥

Mattg576

Still being prompted to manually calibrate compass after update but arm/watch haven’t done much ‘moving’ since.
Maybe it needs a lot of movement to work so will keep an eye on it.

Mattg576

Compass has now self calibrated & is pointing north, superb

jariusxd

Does this update fix the iOS, needing to open the app to sync and find my phone?

Tieutieu

Just installed but not tested yet. Event if related to “guides” => does this update brings any improvements in build in structured workouts ? (rep counter and bip to next step ?)

cs2nd

@Mattg576 Same here. Prompted to manually calibrate compass on Suunto Race.

cs2nd

@Mattg576 ahh, cool. Did it self-calibrate after moving around a bit?

fv4500

Impressed by the update on my 9PP: smoothness and feeling of depth in the menu carousel (by making use of smaller fonts) is great.

kriskus

@TrailEyes I did 5 soft resets and one regular ‘Power Off’ cycle and that didn’t help. In the end I changed my interface language to English and that finally seems to have helped. Back to Polish now and it’s still OK.

duffman19

@pavel-samokha said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

Improved outdoor distance accuracy

Any chance this could be elaborated on? Distance accuracy is what keeps the Vertical on my wrist over other brands. However, I’ve always felt that Suunto watches measure just a touch longer than reality in certain scenarios (heavy tree coverage, for example). Suunto is the only brand where the activity distance is sometimes longer than the measured GNSS distance.

Anyway, excited to test this out. Guess I’ll be running with multiple watches again for a while.

Egika

@duffman19 the GNSS firmware has quite a number of operating modes (like driving, swimming, static, moving etc).
Plus there are the dual/single band, energy saving modes.
In all those modes the individual position points are calculated into trajectories, that the watch uses to calculate the distance.
Both positioning itself and the distance calculated plus other things like time to first fix under certain conditions have been improved.
More detail would not really be helpful.

Just my 2c to over/under estimating:
Whenever I use the “follow route” function in my watch I get a distance that is slightly longer than the usual distance on the same route without this. So my conclusion is, that every GPS measurement is under-estimating - the current Suunto’s just least so

jussim

Can you believe it: the watch remembers the navigation setting again! Hurrah!

t-Dox

@pavel-samokha said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

For Suunto 9 Peak Pro, Vertical, Race and Race S

Improved outdoor distance accuracy

New GNSS software: SONY v00.173

Automatic compass calibration

Save POIs or start bearing navigation by using ruler point markers in map

SuuntoPlus Sports App displays device connection status

New Christmas and New Year watch faces, along with a new green theme watch color*

Added a button lock option in the control panel

Enhanced UI visual effect (the zoom effect)

Fixed battery consumption issues in certain scenarios

Bug fixes and stability improvements

*new watchfaces for Christmas and New Year not yet released in SuuntoPlus Store, will be released soonish

great job guys! can’t wait to update it and test if all the problems are solved. thank you so much and happy holidays

sorinus

Great job! I love the new menu, it even seems a bit snappier on my Vertical?

P.S. Don’t want to take anything from the awesome job the suunto devs did, but I hope we see some interval/structured workout improvements in some future release e.g. counter of current interval repetition.

duffman19

@Egika Thanks for the reply and explanation. That’s about what I expected as far as improvements (generally improved distance calculation algos).

@Egika said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

every GPS measurement is under-estimating - the current Suunto’s just least so

Yep, that’s my experience as well. When I look at other brands, it seems they over-apply distance smoothing and overuse additional metrics such as cadence and pace resulting in under-estimated distances. I’ve always viewed Suunto’s results as the most “raw” of the bunch, and usually the most accurate. The only issue I have with Suunto’s approach is that significant GNSS errors or offsets (which I still see occasionally) often result in a matched distance offset.

At any rate, it’s exciting that Suunto is working to improve their already excellent accuracy.