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Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)

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    TrailEyes Gold Members @kriskus
    last edited by TrailEyes 16 Dec 2024, 13:36

    @kriskus Oh thanks for spotting that! I’m colorblind, so unless I know to look for something more subtle like that, it doesn’t register with my eyes. So I hadn’t noticed that the one aligned at the middle button wasn’t the one that I’d be selecting.

    I don’t like this approach at all.
    (Edit: 2 soft resets may have gotten it back to normal)

    Suunto Vertical / 9 Peak Pro (gifted away) / 9 Baro / 5 Peak (lost on adventure) / Vector
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    Trail Runner / Hiker / Kickboxer
    Instagram: @rytipps

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      pavel.samokha @SuperFlo75
      last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:37

      @SuperFlo75 said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

      @pavel-samokha My watch updated to 2.39.20? Not .22? I‘m on SV

      Sorry, you’re correct it’s .20, I updated the title

      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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        Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @pavel.samokha
        last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:39

        My first feeling is that the menu it’s a little bit lagish, but I will see in the next future how it will work…

        Suunto Race
        Polar H10
        Iphone 14 Pro
        Suunto 9 Baro [sold]

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          Egika Platinum Member @TrailEyes
          last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:41

          @TrailEyes said in Software update 2.39.22 (2024 Q4):

          @kriskus Oh thanks for spotting that! I’m colorblind, so unless I know to look for something more subtle like that, it doesn’t register with my eyes. So I hadn’t noticed that the one aligned at the middle button wasn’t the one that I’d be selecting.

          I don’t like this approach at all.

          your whole control panel scrolling is weird. mine goes up on the screen when scrolling down, so that the selected item actually is in the middle and the whole screen is used.
          I don’t have the big black area staying in place like you

          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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            TrailEyes Gold Members @Egika
            last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:42

            @Egika just did my second soft reset, and it appears to be back to normal. 1 reset alone didn’t work 🫥

            Suunto Vertical / 9 Peak Pro (gifted away) / 9 Baro / 5 Peak (lost on adventure) / Vector
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            Instagram: @rytipps

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              Mattg576
              last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:44

              Still being prompted to manually calibrate compass after update but arm/watch haven’t done much ‘moving’ since.
              Maybe it needs a lot of movement to work so will keep an eye on it.

              Race
              9 Peak
              Ambit 3 Peak
              Ambit 2R (sold)
              Suunto T3d (expired)

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                Mattg576 @Mattg576
                last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:47

                Compass has now self calibrated & is pointing north, superb👍

                Race
                9 Peak
                Ambit 3 Peak
                Ambit 2R (sold)
                Suunto T3d (expired)

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                  jariusxd
                  last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 13:56

                  Does this update fix the iOS, needing to open the app to sync and find my phone?

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                    Tieutieu Platinum Member
                    last edited by Tieutieu 16 Dec 2024, 13:56

                    Just installed but not tested yet. Event if related to “guides” => does this update brings any improvements in build in structured workouts ? (rep counter and bip to next step ?)

                    Suunto’s devices at home :
                    Vertical titanium solar
                    Suunto Race S
                    S9pp titanium sand
                    Suunto Wing
                    S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                      cs2nd @Mattg576
                      last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 14:06

                      @Mattg576 Same here. Prompted to manually calibrate compass on Suunto Race.

                      Suunto Race Ti
                      Suunto 9 Peak Ti

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                        cs2nd @Mattg576
                        last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 14:07

                        @Mattg576 ahh, cool. Did it self-calibrate after moving around a bit?

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                        Suunto 9 Peak Ti

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                          fv4500 Bronze Member
                          last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 14:31

                          Impressed by the update on my 9PP: smoothness and feeling of depth in the menu carousel (by making use of smaller fonts) is great. 👏 👏 👏

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                            kriskus Bronze Member @TrailEyes
                            last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 14:41

                            @TrailEyes I did 5 soft resets and one regular ‘Power Off’ cycle and that didn’t help. In the end I changed my interface language to English and that finally seems to have helped. Back to Polish now and it’s still OK.

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                              duffman19 @pavel.samokha
                              last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 14:54

                              @pavel-samokha said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                              Improved outdoor distance accuracy

                              Any chance this could be elaborated on? Distance accuracy is what keeps the Vertical on my wrist over other brands. However, I’ve always felt that Suunto watches measure just a touch longer than reality in certain scenarios (heavy tree coverage, for example). Suunto is the only brand where the activity distance is sometimes longer than the measured GNSS distance.

                              Anyway, excited to test this out. Guess I’ll be running with multiple watches again for a while.

                              Vertical Ti

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                                Egika Platinum Member @duffman19
                                last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 15:11

                                @duffman19 the GNSS firmware has quite a number of operating modes (like driving, swimming, static, moving etc).
                                Plus there are the dual/single band, energy saving modes.
                                In all those modes the individual position points are calculated into trajectories, that the watch uses to calculate the distance.
                                Both positioning itself and the distance calculated plus other things like time to first fix under certain conditions have been improved.
                                More detail would not really be helpful.

                                Just my 2c to over/under estimating:
                                Whenever I use the “follow route” function in my watch I get a distance that is slightly longer than the usual distance on the same route without this. So my conclusion is, that every GPS measurement is under-estimating - the current Suunto’s just least so 🙂

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                  jussim Bronze Member @Egika
                                  last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 15:19

                                  Can you believe it: the watch remembers the navigation setting again! 😂 Hurrah!

                                  9PP since 09-2025.

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                                    t-Dox @pavel.samokha
                                    last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 15:26

                                    @pavel-samokha said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                                    For Suunto 9 Peak Pro, Vertical, Race and Race S

                                    • Improved outdoor distance accuracy
                                    • New GNSS software: SONY v00.173
                                    • Automatic compass calibration
                                    • Save POIs or start bearing navigation by using ruler point markers in map
                                    • SuuntoPlus Sports App displays device connection status
                                    • New Christmas and New Year watch faces, along with a new green theme watch color*
                                    • Added a button lock option in the control panel
                                    • Enhanced UI visual effect (the zoom effect)
                                    • Fixed battery consumption issues in certain scenarios
                                    • Bug fixes and stability improvements

                                    *new watchfaces for Christmas and New Year not yet released in SuuntoPlus Store, will be released soonish

                                    great job guys! can’t wait to update it and test if all the problems are solved. thank you so much and happy holidays

                                    Andrea
                                    9pp

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                                      sorinus
                                      last edited by sorinus 16 Dec 2024, 15:36

                                      Great job! I love the new menu, it even seems a bit snappier on my Vertical? 👏

                                      P.S. Don’t want to take anything from the awesome job the suunto devs did, but I hope we see some interval/structured workout improvements in some future release e.g. counter of current interval repetition. 😊

                                      Suunto Vertical Ti

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                                        duffman19 @Egika
                                        last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 15:41

                                        @Egika Thanks for the reply and explanation. That’s about what I expected as far as improvements (generally improved distance calculation algos).

                                        @Egika said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                                        every GPS measurement is under-estimating - the current Suunto’s just least so

                                        Yep, that’s my experience as well. When I look at other brands, it seems they over-apply distance smoothing and overuse additional metrics such as cadence and pace resulting in under-estimated distances. I’ve always viewed Suunto’s results as the most “raw” of the bunch, and usually the most accurate. The only issue I have with Suunto’s approach is that significant GNSS errors or offsets (which I still see occasionally) often result in a matched distance offset.

                                        At any rate, it’s exciting that Suunto is working to improve their already excellent accuracy.

                                        Vertical Ti

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                                          pavel.samokha @duffman19
                                          last edited by 16 Dec 2024, 16:23

                                          @duffman19 said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                                          Any chance this could be elaborated on?

                                          Some internal changes to improve accuracy, no specific details to share.

                                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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