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Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)

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    larrybbaker @Tieutieu
    last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 01:52

    @Tieutieu yes known issue. If you downgrade it works fine. I downgraded added the map I needed and then upgraded again. Battery life for me is definitely better with the update.

    SV Solar
    iPhone 16 Pro

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      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @larrybbaker
      last edited by GiPFELKiND 1 Feb 2025, 07:20 2 Jan 2025, 07:16

      Good morning, I noticed the following malfunction in the Yoga/Pilates sport mode and also in the Stretching mode. At the beginning, before the training starts, the heart rate is shown in green (i.e. it is working). About 30 seconds after the training starts, the heart rate display stays at --. No more data is recorded. Is there anyone else who can reproduce this unwanted malfunction?1000266855.jpg ! 1000266908.jpg

      If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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        MKPotts Bronze Member
        last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 21:56

        Is there are news on Suunto issuing an official firmware rollback for the S9PP, that was mentioned in this thread about 10 days ago?

        I’m now only 7 days from a race that will take me about 35hrs, where I intended to use the S9PP as my primary navigation device, with a watch that drains 6-7%/hour in performance mode since (and only since) the firmware update.

        I’ve seen the posts explaining how to complete an “unofficial” rollback but I’m reluctant to do that in case it 1) bricks the watch (is this likely/a real risk?) and/or 2) I successfully roll back only to find the watch forces the update before my race and (worst case) I don’t realise until it fails partway through my race.

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          powderdrop Bronze Member @MKPotts
          last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 22:19

          @MKPotts I did the secret rollback. Everything is working as it should. Battery seems good. Version 2.37.48 was available on my watch. Just turn off auto updates in the app before you do it and it will not update on it’s own. Still waiting on a new software version without the issues.

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            far-blue Bronze Member @MKPotts
            last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 22:22

            @MKPotts My understanding is that the ‘unofficial’ downgrade option is still ‘official’ - it’s built into the watch and isn’t a hack. It’s just hidden from normal view. The capability simply lets you choose which firmware to install from the most recent few. The firmware is also the official firmware so should work fine.

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              enriqueescoms
              last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 09:29

              Since I’ve been with Suunto for about a year and a half, I consider this update to be the worst of all those that have been presented.

              It is true that any new feature is controversial, but in this case it is that no relevant function has been incorporated (and there is room for it, since there are many that users continue to demand), instead we have been given a pseudo carousel visual effect of dubious taste that no one was asking for. And, with it, as a gift, flaws in main aspects.

              I don’t remember this massive flood of downgrades, which is proof of what I am saying, that it is the worst update of those presented. We will see what 2025 has in store for us.

              Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                Łukasz Szmigiel @enriqueescoms
                last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 09:36

                @enriqueescoms there’s automatic compass calibration. And new GNSS firmware. And most importantly - green interface color for new watch faces.

                And don’t forget it was thoroughly tested prior to release and public beta versions are unnecessary, because there’s an army of testers.

                S9PP 2.40.44

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                  Stefano M64 Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by Stefano M64 1 Mar 2025, 09:43 3 Jan 2025, 09:42

                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                  there’s automatic compass calibration.

                  yap, that new feature is really nice, it was really annoying to have to rotate the wrist every time

                  Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                    enriqueescoms @Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by enriqueescoms 1 Mar 2025, 10:12 3 Jan 2025, 10:11

                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel, green color melts my heart, you are right.

                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                      Triumph114 @MKPotts
                      last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 10:15

                      @MKPotts I’ve done it without any fear and result is OK.

                      T114

                      9Peak Pro, 9 Peak, Spartan Ultra , Ambit 3 Vertical, Ambit 2, X10, Yachtsman
                      Diving: Vyper Novo with pressure sensor, Vyper Air, Companion

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                        Triumph114 @Stefano M64
                        last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 10:18

                        @Stefano-M64 I came back to previous version so can’t test it but as far as I remember with 2.39.20 it asked me to perform those twists aand rotation … I was not able to clearly understand the “automatic” calibration 😞

                        T114

                        9Peak Pro, 9 Peak, Spartan Ultra , Ambit 3 Vertical, Ambit 2, X10, Yachtsman
                        Diving: Vyper Novo with pressure sensor, Vyper Air, Companion

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Triumph114
                          last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 10:25

                          @Triumph114 the automatic calibration is being done during the workout. If you’ve entered the compass when it’s uncalibrated, it’ll just show “–” instead of bearing, but as you move, it’ll calibrate itself in a few seconds / minutes.

                          I think that it works the old way outside the workout.

                          S9PP 2.40.44

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                            Mauerwegler @enriqueescoms
                            last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 15:12

                            @enriqueescoms said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):

                            It is true that any new feature is controversial, but in this case it is that no relevant function has been incorporated (and there is room for it, since there are many that users continue to demand), instead we have been given a pseudo carousel visual effect of dubious taste that no one was asking for. And, with it, as a gift, flaws in main aspects.

                            I wonder if this is the first sign of the changes in Suunto. They have laid off people in 2024 and maybe others are in charge now, with different priorities and taste. Yes, this is very speculative, but I do prefer brands for their design language and attitude, and the carousel effect is unnecessary, even distracting eye candy that in my opinion waters the Suunto design philosophy (that I do not know but that was shaped by the app, Spartan Ultra, and Vertical). I had just shrugged my shoulders and moved on if there weren’t the bugs in this update. I also cannot connect the SV to my WIFI to download maps. Still nothing on https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-vertical-software-updates/ that the latest firmware causes issues – I would like to see a list of the known regressions there: it’s not my job to find them myself during usage.

                            Vertical All Black
                            Spartan Ultra Stealth Ti (with Polar H10 or Suunto Smart Sensor)
                            Vector
                            iOS Suunto App (beta)

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                              Triumph114 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                              last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 15:36

                              @Łukasz-Szmigiel OK, many thanks. I will try it as soon as the new revision will be available 😉

                              T114

                              9Peak Pro, 9 Peak, Spartan Ultra , Ambit 3 Vertical, Ambit 2, X10, Yachtsman
                              Diving: Vyper Novo with pressure sensor, Vyper Air, Companion

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                                enriqueescoms @Mauerwegler
                                last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 15:49

                                @Mauerwegler It’s comforting to see people who think the same way I do. I totally agree with your point of view.

                                Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Mauerwegler
                                  last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 16:00

                                  @Mauerwegler sales and competition.

                                  You can’t have 1% market and cheap and robust watches at the same time. Suunto could be a niche company, but that’s not sustainable, even if the watches were priced 300% of current prices. It needs to appeal to the masses.

                                  And I believe that 80% users of sports smartwatches are seldomly doing any activity. It’s just a gadget, a modern piece of jewelry. Hence, the AMOLED, steps and sleep tracking, emojis and watchfaces.

                                  S9PP 2.40.44

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                                    powderdrop Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                    last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 23:00

                                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel those people don’t buy a Suunto, Garmin, etc. They use an apple, pixel, Samsung, one plus, etc. watch. Way more functionality for the common person (calls, text, music, apps, etc), they are generally cheaper, easier to operate/navigate, and they can still do some tracking of activities if needed.

                                    For a sport watch to fail at the few items you are paying a premium for via a software update is rather disappointing.

                                    I know it will be fixed but imo it should have been already.

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                                      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @powderdrop
                                      last edited by 4 Jan 2025, 06:54

                                      @powderdrop you are right man 😎 and there are more bugs and wrong things after the last firmware Update. And Special the maps and the contour lines in the Bavaria alps above 500m zoomlevel is missing until today more than 1 year. Oops suunto perhaps forgot it while making another NEW Firmware and “Christmas Watchface”. 😴 My Race s suddenly stops measure the heart rate on Yoga, Stretching Activity. Everytime… New and bad thing. Yesterday in Walking Activity too… No more comments. Suunto manage it and give solution for all Users

                                      If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                                        thanasis Bronze Member @duffman19
                                        last edited by 4 Jan 2025, 07:09

                                        @duffman19 just for your comparison i ran this morning wearing both vertical and S3P.

                                        vertical:
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                                        measured
                                        ascent 174 - decent 176
                                        highest point 279M - actual 277M

                                        ambit
                                        7714e74f-18cf-4890-9ac5-945596ee6e2f-image.png

                                        measured:
                                        ascent 174m - decent 174m
                                        highest point 282M - actual 277M

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                                          jussim Bronze Member
                                          last edited by 4 Jan 2025, 07:14

                                          Thursday morning my 9PP was 49%, after two runs (both about an hour) battery was at 29% before going to bed. Then Friday night charged to 100%, this morning it’s 97% and after the weekly run of 2 hours, battery is at 83%. That’s not great!

                                          Patiently waiting for the next software update.

                                          9PP since 09-2025.

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