Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)
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Is there are news on Suunto issuing an official firmware rollback for the S9PP, that was mentioned in this thread about 10 days ago?
I’m now only 7 days from a race that will take me about 35hrs, where I intended to use the S9PP as my primary navigation device, with a watch that drains 6-7%/hour in performance mode since (and only since) the firmware update.
I’ve seen the posts explaining how to complete an “unofficial” rollback but I’m reluctant to do that in case it 1) bricks the watch (is this likely/a real risk?) and/or 2) I successfully roll back only to find the watch forces the update before my race and (worst case) I don’t realise until it fails partway through my race.
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@MKPotts I did the secret rollback. Everything is working as it should. Battery seems good. Version 2.37.48 was available on my watch. Just turn off auto updates in the app before you do it and it will not update on it’s own. Still waiting on a new software version without the issues.
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@MKPotts My understanding is that the ‘unofficial’ downgrade option is still ‘official’ - it’s built into the watch and isn’t a hack. It’s just hidden from normal view. The capability simply lets you choose which firmware to install from the most recent few. The firmware is also the official firmware so should work fine.
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Since I’ve been with Suunto for about a year and a half, I consider this update to be the worst of all those that have been presented.
It is true that any new feature is controversial, but in this case it is that no relevant function has been incorporated (and there is room for it, since there are many that users continue to demand), instead we have been given a pseudo carousel visual effect of dubious taste that no one was asking for. And, with it, as a gift, flaws in main aspects.
I don’t remember this massive flood of downgrades, which is proof of what I am saying, that it is the worst update of those presented. We will see what 2025 has in store for us.
Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)
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@enriqueescoms there’s automatic compass calibration. And new GNSS firmware. And most importantly - green interface color for new watch faces.
And don’t forget it was thoroughly tested prior to release and public beta versions are unnecessary, because there’s an army of testers.
S9PP 2.40.38
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
there’s automatic compass calibration.
yap, that new feature is really nice, it was really annoying to have to rotate the wrist every time
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel, green color melts my heart, you are right.
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@MKPotts I’ve done it without any fear and result is OK.
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@Stefano-M64 I came back to previous version so can’t test it but as far as I remember with 2.39.20 it asked me to perform those twists aand rotation … I was not able to clearly understand the “automatic” calibration
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@Triumph114 the automatic calibration is being done during the workout. If you’ve entered the compass when it’s uncalibrated, it’ll just show “–” instead of bearing, but as you move, it’ll calibrate itself in a few seconds / minutes.
I think that it works the old way outside the workout.
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@enriqueescoms said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
It is true that any new feature is controversial, but in this case it is that no relevant function has been incorporated (and there is room for it, since there are many that users continue to demand), instead we have been given a pseudo carousel visual effect of dubious taste that no one was asking for. And, with it, as a gift, flaws in main aspects.
I wonder if this is the first sign of the changes in Suunto. They have laid off people in 2024 and maybe others are in charge now, with different priorities and taste. Yes, this is very speculative, but I do prefer brands for their design language and attitude, and the carousel effect is unnecessary, even distracting eye candy that in my opinion waters the Suunto design philosophy (that I do not know but that was shaped by the app, Spartan Ultra, and Vertical). I had just shrugged my shoulders and moved on if there weren’t the bugs in this update. I also cannot connect the SV to my WIFI to download maps. Still nothing on https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-vertical-software-updates/ that the latest firmware causes issues – I would like to see a list of the known regressions there: it’s not my job to find them myself during usage.
Vertical All Black
Spartan Ultra Stealth Ti (with Polar H10 or Suunto Smart Sensor)
Vector
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel OK, many thanks. I will try it as soon as the new revision will be available
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@Mauerwegler It’s comforting to see people who think the same way I do. I totally agree with your point of view.
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@Mauerwegler sales and competition.
You can’t have 1% market and cheap and robust watches at the same time. Suunto could be a niche company, but that’s not sustainable, even if the watches were priced 300% of current prices. It needs to appeal to the masses.
And I believe that 80% users of sports smartwatches are seldomly doing any activity. It’s just a gadget, a modern piece of jewelry. Hence, the AMOLED, steps and sleep tracking, emojis and watchfaces.
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel those people don’t buy a Suunto, Garmin, etc. They use an apple, pixel, Samsung, one plus, etc. watch. Way more functionality for the common person (calls, text, music, apps, etc), they are generally cheaper, easier to operate/navigate, and they can still do some tracking of activities if needed.
For a sport watch to fail at the few items you are paying a premium for via a software update is rather disappointing.
I know it will be fixed but imo it should have been already.
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@powderdrop you are right man
and there are more bugs and wrong things after the last firmware Update. And Special the maps and the contour lines in the Bavaria alps above 500m zoomlevel is missing until today more than 1 year. Oops suunto perhaps forgot it while making another NEW Firmware and “Christmas Watchface”. 
My Race s suddenly stops measure the heart rate on Yoga, Stretching Activity. Everytime… New and bad thing. Yesterday in Walking Activity too… No more comments. Suunto manage it and give solution for all Users -
@duffman19 just for your comparison i ran this morning wearing both vertical and S3P.
vertical:
measured
ascent 174 - decent 176
highest point 279M - actual 277Mambit
measured:
ascent 174m - decent 174m
highest point 282M - actual 277M -
Thursday morning my 9PP was 49%, after two runs (both about an hour) battery was at 29% before going to bed. Then Friday night charged to 100%, this morning it’s 97% and after the weekly run of 2 hours, battery is at 83%. That’s not great!
Patiently waiting for the next software update.
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Good morning to all you happy Suunto Vertical owners, after the 2.39.20 update on my vertical, the touchscreen stopped working… I tried with soft reset and hard reset but it doesn’t work. Do you have any solutions, has this happened to anyone else?
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I also downgraded to previous software version.
The sleep tracking of my Race was very unreliable with the latest software version. It skipped sleep tracking 1-2 times per week. I’ve owned my Race just a bit over 1 year and it had never done it before the latest software version.
To be honest, the latest software version didn’t bring any useful improvements/features. I don’t really care about the new watch faces. Before the Race I had a Samsung Galaxy Watch Pro and in the Samsung forums all people were interestes was just new watch faces and not new features.
