Switched from a garmin forerunner 965 to a race s
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@elbee In fact, and at least in android, you can get TBT from an imported GPX. If you edit the imported route, moving one point or adding it you should get TBT indications.
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@cosme-costa editting an import route in my experience is really difficult. You add one planning point and the whole route changes.
Would there be a better way?
I didn’t really want or need the TbyT but it would be handy to edit a route. I end up having to go to Kamoot.
Suunto Vertical
Suunto 9 BARO
Garmin Fenix 3, 5
Suunto Vector -
@cosme-costa just tested this. You don’t even have to move a point. I had the option to turn on tbt directly after I imported the gpx file.
Suunto Race S
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@Audaxjoe In Android, at least, you can add planning points that you can move, the trick is to add enough of them to not mess the route. I mean, if i have a route that passes in point A and B and I want to modify the route between the two points I add one point in A, another in B and some in the middle and i move them to the places where I want the route to pass.
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@2b2bff said in Switched from a garmin forerunner 965 to a race s:
@cosme-costa just tested this. You don’t even have to move a point. I had the option to turn on tbt directly after I imported the gpx file.
Yeah, the slider is there but if you do not move one point the TBT indications doesn’t appear, I just have checked.
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@cosme-costa yes, totally appreciate that. But if you have a long route, you add one planning point and the whole route moves.
It is fine on route plotted in SA but in my experience very ineffective on imported routes.
Suunto Vertical
Suunto 9 BARO
Garmin Fenix 3, 5
Suunto Vector -
It sounds so much easier to import the route in kamoot, which autosyncs to suunto. No editing needed. Suunto could do it in the past. My Ambit 3 could do tbt with imported routes in movescount 10 years ago, but it seems Suunto had different priorities with their app when the migrated from movescount.
Well, it is what it is. Not the end of the world.
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@Audaxjoe Yes, but if you add 3 points and only move the middle one the route is not moved. As I said, not useful for big modifications but quite handy for smallish modifications.
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@elbee Yes and no, maybe you do not have a komoot account or do not have the correct maps in komoot, so this is a solution. You do not need to do big modifications, really.
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this is such an interesting post to me as I am also an ex-garmin user (ancient FR 45), trying out the race s, and getting annoyed with a few things which are making me think to bite the bullet and get a FR 965, but this has given me pause!!
A really big problem is an annoying function garmin recently added: forced audio tbt alerts. Either your connected phone or your headphones will give spoken tbt alerts and those cannot be turned off. Obviously a lot of users complained. Garmin is aware but couldn’t be bothered.
a big pull for me with the garmin was that i could use spotify with it direct, leaving my phone behind. but that issue would make that useless, and to see that this has been around for 8+ months with no fix is wild.
The charge cable on my suunto is better. But that is mainly because I don’t like the plug garmin uses.
yeah this kind of ‘magsafe’ charger is much better. can’t believe garmin are still using plugs in 2025, for $500+ watches no less!
Garmin has 2 buttons on the rightside, the top one for start and stop activities, the bottom for lap. Suunto also uses the bottom one for laps, but sometimes the digital crown is in the way. Stopping an activity on a suunto is a bit weird. It doesn’t work on the maps/breadcrumb screen. Also, you have to press the top button, then the bottom one, and lastly the digital crown to really end and save the activity. On a garmin, if you just want to end an activity it’s only 2 buttons clicks.
strong agree. the maps thing is particularly annoying (and unnecessary). i feel like a running watch should allow you to always blindly stop and resume activities with one or two button presses. also the touch screen seems to not work in some contexts (eg stopping and ending a run).
one thing i can’t seem to get nice on my suunto is the smartwatch notifications. on garmin i could turn the notifications on for ‘during activity’ (useful), but for suunto it’s either on or off for everywhere. so after a run i need to turn on DND or turn the watch off to avoid having it beeping and vibrating, when i have my phone covering that anyway.
what was pulling me to the 965 was the on-watch map routing, and the ability to connect spotify and payments, but mostly it was because the basics of starting/stopping activities and how the buttons worked seemed logical and intuitive to me, whereas with suunto i feel like i’m finding all these weird quirks where things don’t work how i would expect them.
BUT the 965 seems huge, expensive and ugly to me, whereas the suunto S is extremely cute and feels expensive, despite being about 40% cheaper. plus the garmin app has never made any sense to me. i think my worry is that (like Garmin), suunto don’t seem to have a great feedback loop of user feature requests/bug reports. you can find the same/similar issues with maps and notifications logged in the forums months or even years back.
nothing is perfect, but i am going to keep trying with my race s to see if i can live with this stuff.
