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Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo)

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    Pavlas
    last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 11:11

    Skynet…

    🔺Vertical All Black

    ex:
    Ambit2 Black
    Ambit3 Peak Sapphire
    Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium
    S9B All Black
    Ocean All Black (for testing only)
    >>> YouTube Channel <<<

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      runomatic Silver Members @Pavlas
      last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 11:59

      @Pavlas said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

      Skynet…

      No, don’t worry. These are just the effects of the Chinese takeover. 😄

      https://runomatic.de
      SUUNTO VERTICAL Titanium Solar Black (2.44.46)
      SUUNTO WING Black
      SUUNTO App (iOS)

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        A Former User @runomatic
        last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 12:03

        @runomatic Yes, since the Chinese takeover, there have been more watchface updates than before. 🙂

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          Pavlas @runomatic
          last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 12:23

          @runomatic 😄

          🔺Vertical All Black

          ex:
          Ambit2 Black
          Ambit3 Peak Sapphire
          Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium
          S9B All Black
          Ocean All Black (for testing only)
          >>> YouTube Channel <<<

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @runomatic
            last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 12:27

            @runomatic so, basically skynet anyway 😜

            S9PP 2.44.48 beta

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              Kramble @BRogers80
              last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 18:33

              @BRogers80 said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

              Yes. My watchface changed colours and datafield to the defaults. Happens the First time.

              Same for my Vertical

              Ambit 3 peak saphir
              Spartan Ultra (sold)
              S7 graphite copper
              S9 peak all black
              Vertical titanium green forest
              Wings

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                M2Oskie @osscar
                last edited by 18 Mar 2025, 20:17

                @osscar Thx for comment. Second hand on my Race S went from lime to white and I wondered if it was my memory going wonky. Hope it goes back. I miss the lime green.

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                  Shrek3k @Kramble
                  last edited by 19 Mar 2025, 04:03

                  @Kramble Similar to same development for me on my Vertical, the watchfaces changes the complication without any reason and uses complications that I had deactivated. Only way out is to push the middle button. Not good!

                  using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling through the northern german "wilderness", and wherever else I have the chance to do so
                  OS - Android 16/Pixel Pro 7

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                    last edited by 19 Mar 2025, 07:04

                    Hi all thanks for the report. We found the root cause of this issue.

                    Thanks again

                    Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                    youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                    https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                    https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                      Jordi C @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 19 Mar 2025, 07:43

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Great!

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                        Александр Даниленко @BRogers80
                        last edited by 19 Mar 2025, 22:59

                        @BRogers80 same here

                        Suunto Race S

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                          Danny poleg Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 20 Mar 2025, 12:47

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Anything special that needs to be done?

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                            Ars Vitae Silver Members @Devis
                            last edited by 21 Mar 2025, 12:17

                            @Devis said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

                            Here is the recording of my last swimming workout.
                            I swam 50 laps (swimming pool length = 25m), the first 20 going freestyle and returning backstroke, then the last 30 laps all freestyle. After each length I pressed the lower button of the watch (to mark the lap).
                            I swam for 1250 m but Race S tracked a distance of only 1050 m (-16% !!!).
                            You can see how the watch records incorrectly when you change style (the first 20 laps).
                            I hope Suunto checks this issue/bug and fixes it.
                            Thanks.

                            Devis

                            My impression is that before the latest updates, the recognition of swimming styles worked better. You have two choices at the moment: either get used to it, or get a watch that monitors swimming better, since this sport is from my own experience (and swimming is an integral part of my training) and based on reading this forum, absolutely Suunto’s weakest point. I personally let it go, because despite many signals to this day Suunto has not done anything about it. Mistakes in recognizing styles, not counting the swum lengths of the pool, all this I am forced to correct manually after training, which is very stupid. For example, what happens to the HR data generated during under-counted, missed lengths by the watch? How is the time that passes during the exercise being performed counted as rest?
                            And thanks to you, this is the first time I’ve read suggestions from the Suunto support site. I think they went a bit far overboard. They want you to adapt everything you do during training to the watch’s algorithm. Rather, it should be the other way around, it is the watch that is supposed to monitor everything you do during training, it is the algorithm that is supposed to be flexible, not the opposite. Imagine punishing runners to run at a certain pace only, otherwise the GPS will get lost. I’m not kidding, that’s the advice Suunto supports swimmers to swim at an even pace, not to stop or slow down, otherwise the watch will read it as a turnaround, a change of direction and charge another length. No joke, really?!
                            I suggested in another post to engage on demand (in training options) GPS for swimming in the pool (often such pools are covered only with a roof, so the signal is there). And I actually discovered that GPS can be enabled in the swim settings. Unfortunately, it doesn’t do anything, I suspect that this feature is not part of the plan at all, an essential part of the algorithm. I’d be happy to read others’ opinions on the matter.

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                              Devis
                              last edited by 23 Mar 2025, 10:38

                              Yesterday I swam 50 laps, so 1250 m, but Race S fw 2.39. 44 only recorded 1075 m. It lost 7 laps!

                              The first 20 laps I did freestyle + backstroke and the last 30 only freestyle (see image below).

                              At the end of every 25 m I pressed the down button to track the lap.

                              a412a7b0-1d44-4c68-b08c-4c9beaf73e72-image.png

                              I did the same training as the previous week, see https://forum.suunto.com/post/163734

                              Please Suunto, it’s time to fix the incorrect distance estimation in swimming.
                              People can buy Suunto because it’s very nice but if it doesn’t do the main job (recording the activity correctly), they will go and buy other sports watches.

                              Thanks.

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