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    thanasis Bronze Member @far-blue
    last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 04:10

    @far-blue @Brad_Olwin thank you both

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      thailon Bronze Member
      last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 05:38

      My Vertical went to power saving mode without any interaction from my side, even batter was 45%.


      T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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        Antoine Bronze Member
        last edited by Antoine 31 Mar 2025, 07:33

        During an activity, the GPX route I was following disappeared. I tried to select it again, but it had disappeared from my list of routes on the watch, along with others. I redownloaded the GPX route into the app, and it was resynced with the watch. I was able to select it again, and I was finally able to follow the GPX route. This is the first time I’ve observed this behavior.

        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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          Artus Diver @Devis
          last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 07:47

          @Devis said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

          Hello,
          yesteday I swam in the pool (25m) for about 60 lengths and the Race S estimated a total distance of 1500 m .

          I pushed the down button to mark a lap at the end of every length (but I did it only for the first 50 lengths).
          From the first, up to the 10th lap, I swam freestyle (a length) and then return in backstroke (a length), five times.

          Here what the Race S tracked. I underlined what I think it is not correct.

          964f2055-598b-454e-99af-c9d34eb43d59-image.png

          Thanks for any comment.

          I have a Suunto Vertical and swimming in the pool after the latest updates is a nightmare!
          It counts the distance incorrectly, LAP after 100m shows 75m and confuses swimming styles (…) It divides 100m sections into 2x50m (…)

          The new algorithm has extended the time of laps approval from 4 seconds to 10 seconds. For recreational swimming it does not matter but if someone trains, the algorithm gets lost in fast and intensive intervals!
          I do not know why such changes?

          I am forced to go back to swimming with Suunto 9 Baro and I have no problems, everything works perfectly!!! Why can’t stick with the old algorithm?

          Suunto Viper
          Suunto HelO2
          Suunto Ambit 3 PEAK
          Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
          Suunto Vertical

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Artus Diver
            last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 09:46

            @Artus-Diver I see the post

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Devis
              last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 09:48

              @Devis What is the problem with the 50m red circles ?

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                Alastair Polden
                last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 14:18

                I can no longer connect my vertical watch to WiFi. It was previously working. Steps I have taken to rectify:
                Disabled 5ghz WiFi
                Restarted router
                Restarted watch
                Restarted phone

                The last step to try is a hard reset of the watch but if I’m unable to reconnect to WiFi, I will have lost the downloaded maps i currently have on the watch.

                Software 2.40.38
                Model 0w222
                Hardware 3211e2
                PPG 0.4.65
                Wlan v000052

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                  runomatic Silver Members
                  last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 18:58

                  Bug or feature (to save battery)? The widgets of the Vertcial’s standard watchface (in my case “Ressources” and “Solar”) no longer update automatically. Only when I press the middle button does the value adjust.

                  https://runomatic.de
                  SUUNTO VERTICAL Titanium Solar Black (2.43.12)
                  SUUNTO WING Black
                  SUUNTO App (iOS)

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                    Jan Suchánek @timecode
                    last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 19:03

                    @timecode Thanks! I was thinking about that. So it only shows the zone. In this case, it could be smaller, just show color and left space for another complication… But I can live with that for sure :-).

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                      fedequei @Jan Suchánek
                      last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 19:08

                      @Jan-Suchánek I have the same problem

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                        Matthias Jäggli @pavel.samokha
                        last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 19:14

                        @pavel-samokha And everytime something updates. it resets the watch face and it’s colors and complications. PLEASE leave this alone, it’s so annoying

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                          pilleus
                          last edited by pilleus 31 Mar 2025, 19:26

                          Air pressure complication doesn’t change the horizontal arrow despite of increasing air pressure (1014 to 1024 hPa within 12 hours).

                          On Vertical and 9PP with the choosen watchface. 🤔

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                          https://www.instagram.com/moves.are.life/
                          Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                          Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                          Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                            sartoric Moderator @pilleus
                            last edited by sartoric 31 Mar 2025, 19:40

                            @pilleus
                            baro trend shows 2 X 3 hours timeframes and there should be a threshold I don’t remember at the moment.

                            It works ok on my Vertical

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                            SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
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                            Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
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                              runomatic Silver Members @pilleus
                              last edited by runomatic 31 Mar 2025, 19:45

                              @pilleus That is the same bug as mine, i suppose. (2 posts above yours)

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                              SUUNTO VERTICAL Titanium Solar Black (2.43.12)
                              SUUNTO WING Black
                              SUUNTO App (iOS)

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                                pilleus @sartoric
                                last edited by pilleus 31 Mar 2025, 20:39

                                @sartoric said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                @pilleus
                                baro trend shows 2 X 3 hours timeframes and there should be a threshold I don’t remember at the moment.

                                It works ok on my Vertical

                                No change since the update. Always the ➡️ arrow despite the steady increase from 1014 to 1024 hPa within 12 hours. There should be a arrow showing ↗️

                                https://www.instagram.com/moves.are.life/
                                Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                                Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                                Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                                  Inge Nallsson @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 04:48

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                  @Devis What is the problem with the 50m red circles

                                  I believe the confusion comes from an issue I layed out in the posting https://forum.suunto.com/post/164067 (Several swim issues and questions). Whether being, as @Artus-Diver calls it, a ‘recreational’ swimmer or doing more of a ‘training’ session we users expect that pressing the supposed ‘Lap’ button will mark the distance since a previous button press AND give the exact timing between the presses.

                                  But, as I showed in the linked posting, the ‘Lap’ button does (probably) not effect the timing at all and is just a means of summarising the automatic “Interval” counting the watch does by itself. It is thus very likely that a ‘recreational’ swimmer (pushing the ‘Lap’ button for every length *) will experience 0 metres lengths or, as in this case, 50 metres while expecting 25 because the the automatic counting easily is disturbed by slowing down or faffing with the watch or less than stellar push-offs. Remember, a ‘Lap’ button press is in no way decoupled from the automatic “Interval” counting.

                                  • Many ‘recreational’ swimmers count lengths instead of metres and therefore rely on the ‘Lap’ button doing the logical thing, i.e. in a 25m pool mark 1 length and that being 25 metres. The concept of automatic “Interval” counting (of varying lengths) is for them profoundly alien.

                                  Suunto Race S

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                                    pilleus @pilleus
                                    last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 06:50

                                    @pilleus said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                    @sartoric said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                    @pilleus
                                    baro trend shows 2 X 3 hours timeframes and there should be a threshold I don’t remember at the moment.

                                    It works ok on my Vertical

                                    No change since the update. Always the ➡️ arrow despite the steady increase from 1014 to 1024 hPa within 12 hours. There should be a arrow showing ↗️

                                    Now the air pressure is falling, the value in the complication is correct, the little arrow above is still ➡️.

                                    I tried different watchfaces, no difference. Both watches, Vertical and 9PP have been resetted to factory settings after the update. 😕

                                    https://www.instagram.com/moves.are.life/
                                    Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                                    Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                                      Artus Diver @Inge Nallsson
                                      last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 07:44

                                      @Inge-Nallsson said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                      @Devis What is the problem with the 50m red circles

                                      I believe the confusion comes from an issue I layed out in the posting https://forum.suunto.com/post/164067 (Several swim issues and questions). Whether being, as @Artus-Diver calls it, a ‘recreational’ swimmer or doing more of a ‘training’ session we users expect that pressing the supposed ‘Lap’ button will mark the distance since a previous button press AND give the exact timing between the presses.

                                      But, as I showed in the linked posting, the ‘Lap’ button does (probably) not effect the timing at all and is just a means of summarising the automatic “Interval” counting the watch does by itself. It is thus very likely that a ‘recreational’ swimmer (pushing the ‘Lap’ button for every length *) will experience 0 metres lengths or, as in this case, 50 metres while expecting 25 because the the automatic counting easily is disturbed by slowing down or faffing with the watch or less than stellar push-offs. Remember, a ‘Lap’ button press is in no way decoupled from the automatic “Interval” counting.

                                      • Many ‘recreational’ swimmers count lengths instead of metres and therefore rely on the ‘Lap’ button doing the logical thing, i.e. in a 25m pool mark 1 length and that being 25 metres. The concept of automatic “Interval” counting (of varying lengths) is for them profoundly alien.

                                      Good morning,
                                      I hope I haven’t offended anyone with the term “recreational swimming”, if so that was not my intention, I apologize.
                                      Of course I practice sports swimming but I often use other swimming techniques and the LAP button to mark laps, e.g. for exercises without hands.

                                      By the way.

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos even when LAP works it still doesn’t give the length and it was already implemented in the Suunto AMBIT 3 PEAK model!!!

                                      I don’t understand what the problem is to restore such functionality?

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I’ve been using your products since 2001 (I swim, dive) and I don’t remember such a mess with the swimming algorithm!

                                      (SA3PEAK, S9B, SV until update 2.39.20 later it’s despair).

                                      Yesterday I sent the SV to the service because maybe it’s a watch defect? ​​I’m curious about the service opinion.

                                      Back to the topic.
                                      I proposed dividing it into two disciplines only because the current algorithm does not satisfy either competitive or recreational swimmers.

                                      Suunto Viper
                                      Suunto HelO2
                                      Suunto Ambit 3 PEAK
                                      Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
                                      Suunto Vertical

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Artus Diver
                                        last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 07:57

                                        @Artus-Diver No offence. But in theory no need to press the lap button. I ll be reporting this so at least it works as expected.

                                        Thanks for your time friend

                                        Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                        Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                                        youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                        https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                        https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                                          Artus Diver @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 08:49

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                          @Artus-Diver No offence. But in theory no need to press the lap button. I ll be reporting this so at least it works as expected.

                                          Thanks for your time friend

                                          Thank you for your help and support.

                                          By the way, I have one more observation.

                                          When performing very fast “sprints” of 100m butterfly stroke less than 8 strokes, the lap (25m) is not counted.

                                          This occurs when swimming underwater for a long time (30% or more of the length of the 25m pool), which consequently shortens the number of strokes above the water.

                                          Suunto Viper
                                          Suunto HelO2
                                          Suunto Ambit 3 PEAK
                                          Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
                                          Suunto Vertical

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