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Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1)

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    Inge Nallsson @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 11:24

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

    @Artus-Diver No offence. But in theory no need to press the lap button. I ll be reporting this so at least it works as expected.

    There is no need to press a ‘Lap’ button in casual use, but real life gives ample situations where we do. One is the recreational swimmer as cited above, a second is to have more precise control over registered times/laps and a third, since Suunto doesn’t have a drill mode, to mark portions where we use no arms or perhaps only a single arm.

    To accomplish expected behaviour Suunto need to give the ‘Lap’ button priority also in the watches Swimming mode so that a press gives a timestamp (by itself, decoupled from automatics) plus distance and in effect ends any automatics going on. Or something in that ballpark… I’m no algorithm writer! (Though I appreciate how hard it must be to satisfy all user cases).

    Suunto Race S

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      pilleus
      last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 16:41

      The widget (barometer) is also broken since the update. Despite falling air pressure it shows the ➡️ arrow, the same behaviour as the complication in the watch face (on my 9PP and Vertical).

      Please fix it, it’s an outdoor watch and it should work as expected.

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        surfboomerang @pilleus
        last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 16:57

        @pilleus Seems correct if the Ambit 3 algorithm is still used.

        This is a part of the user manual:
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          pilleus @surfboomerang
          last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 17:51

          @surfboomerang

          Since the update I have the horizontal arrow ➡️ on two watches without any changes. Yesterday the air pressure increases from 1014 to 1024 hPa within 7 hours and nothing happened with the arrow. 🤔

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            Audaxjoe @pilleus
            last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 17:59

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            Mine does change, so this isn’t affecting everyone. I guess you have tried a soft reset?

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              surfboomerang @pilleus
              last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:01

              @pilleus unfortunately I can’t test it right now since the weather here has been really stable the past days and seems continue to be in the upcoming week.

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                pilleus @Audaxjoe
                last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:07

                @Audaxjoe

                I did a soft reset in the morning (time in the attached picture). After six hours the horizontal arrow was shown. Air pressure decreased from 1024 to 1022 hPa in the meantime.

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                  sartoric Moderator @pilleus
                  last edited by sartoric 4 Jan 2025, 18:12 1 Apr 2025, 18:11

                  @pilleus said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                  After six hours the horizontal arrow was shown. Air pressure decreased from 1024 to 1022 hPa in the meantime.

                  2hPa in six hours is not triggering any “change” in baro trend … not even in 3 hours afair

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                    pilleus @sartoric
                    last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 18:33

                    @sartoric

                    For me the change from 1014 to 1024 hPa is a trend and was shown before the update as ↗️.

                    We will see, if the ➡️ will change in the next few days.

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                      Devis @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by Devis 4 Jan 2025, 19:26 1 Apr 2025, 19:09

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                      Since I always pressed the down button to mark each length (25m), I circled some “50m” because the watch had already counted 25m for the previous lap and another 25m for the next lap. So, I think the watch overestimated the distance by +25m in these laps.
                      … probably I have not understand how the down button acts/syncronize with the watch distance algoritm.
                      Thanks for any your help.

                      Devis

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                        Александр Даниленко @Inge Nallsson
                        last edited by Александр Даниленко 4 Mar 2025, 11:15 3 Apr 2025, 11:10

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                        As a swimmer I fully agree with @Inge-Nallsson about lap button.

                        It is very strange logic, when watch show zero lap times when you dont swim. Or when they show a time they measured automatically after pressing lap button - I dont understand what is the point of lap button in this paradigm.

                        Automatic intervals time counting works good in Suunto, but definitely not perfect.

                        I found the way to make the watch count real times in the swimming by pressing lap button (using bug of completed stuctured workout, but that is another story) and found that still the automatic time counting isn’t that reliable.

                        As example I can show part of my last training session. Below on the screenshots you can see I did a set 10×100m breaststroke with rest time between 30~40 sec. For each 100m I counted manually, although keep in mind that manual lap counting in the swimming gives at least additional 2 second comparing to real time (because of delay press-swim-stop-press).

                        First screenshots is manual counting by pressing lap button (using bug). On the second screenshots is autimatic watch counting and my corrections:
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                        As you can see, the watch automatically count time as 1’33, but manual lap counting gave 1’31. As I explained above, manual counting give a delay at least for a 2 sec, so the real time for most intervals is ~1’29. So, at least 4 sec delay between real and automatically counted by the watch time.

                        They doesn’t always behave like that, adding time comparing to real. Often they ± coincide. Sometimes even give less. But you neven know it, until you start manually count the time, which is more reliable.

                        Moreover, if I do leg kicking sets (the watch doesn’t count distance there), it is very unfortunate that lap button always give me zero times. There are also sets like 10×50m legs kicking where we need to control the time, but the watch doesn’t give that opportunity (until using the bug…which doesn’t even sound normal).

                        Suunto Race S

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                          pavel.samokha @Matthias Jäggli
                          last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 11:51

                          @Matthias-Jäggli I understand your frustration, feeling the same and it’s a known issue, which unfortunately has some technical reasons. We will work on fixing this, but it can take time and we still need to do the updates.

                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                            Maoris
                            last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:14

                            Hi,

                            I have issues with HRV measurements. It started with the faulty update in 2024. I downgraded the firmware, but it didn’t really help. I was hoping the issue would be fixed with the newest update, but it wasn’t.

                            The current firmware version: 2.40.38

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                            After the firmware update, I reset the watch to factory settings, but this didn’t help either.

                            Any suggestions?

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                              Александр Даниленко @pavel.samokha
                              last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:58

                              @pavel.samokha

                              People wrote about this, but I will also add.

                              Sleep tracking and resources counting stopped on my Race S. HR sensors is working, calories are counting.

                              It worked good until I rebooted the watch yesterday.

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                                Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:36

                                @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                Hello where can I get this view? Is it part of the app? Any additional software needed?
                                Thanks

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                                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                                  last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:37

                                  @Peter-Pan-0 which view are you referring to?

                                  S9PP 2.40.44

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                                    Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                    last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 11:59

                                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                    probably the view of your app 😉 with battery stats, etc…

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                                      last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:07

                                      @Peter-Pan-0 check this out:

                                      https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9249/sml-track-viewer-a-handy-little-tool-for-analysing-track-quality-and-battery-stats

                                      S9PP 2.40.44

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                                        Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                        last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:30

                                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel Well done. TY

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                                          matthinsh Bronze Member @Ars Vitae
                                          last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 10:37

                                          @Ars-Vitae said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                          What’s the difference between Running Track and Track Running?

                                          Does anyone know the answer to this? Is the new Track Running sport mode like the modes on Coros and Garmin, where you can input the lane you’re in and it’ll record each lap really accurately?

                                          This is very useful for track sessions.

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