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    Stefano M64 Silver Members @PetrMisek
    last edited by Stefano M64 28 Apr 2025, 08:42

    @PetrMisek the point is simple, we cannot expect that the consumer baro sensor of our beloved watch can be precise and stable (that is, not drifting) as the professional ones. In our lab we have one good reference barometer that was paid about 4’000 euros (ten times the price of my Race), and there are for sure more expensive models. In any case, also professional barometers need to be tested and re-calibrated.
    Nevertheless, all the metrics we need are computed by means of pressure differences, so the absolute value is not that important.

    Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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      PetrMisek @Stefano M64
      last edited by 28 Apr 2025, 11:37

      @Stefano-M64 yes yes I know that, I wrote this just for fun, because it also depends a lot on the ambient air temperature

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        PetrMisek @PetrMisek
        last edited by 30 Apr 2025, 07:50

        @PetrMisek maybe there is also an option to calibrate the sensor, does anyone know? I think that for the S9B this option was somewhere in the service menu

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          thanasis Bronze Member
          last edited by 1 May 2025, 07:44

          I think there is room for improvement in the way the watch calculates altitude and pressure . For instance leaving the watch idle for some days one can observe that the altitude changes while it shouldn’t be the case … I assume the watch misjudges the changes in barometric pressure as altitude variation despite the fact there is no movement .
          In ambit 3peak times there was an option to define those changes as altitude or barometric or automatic …
          Unfortunate in recent days this is not the case

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            Jan Suchánek
            last edited by Jan Suchánek 5 Jan 2025, 20:49 1 May 2025, 20:48

            I work in metrology laboratory, so I tested all my watch😁. I compared Garmin Fenix F7 and lately F7Pro with some Huawei and Amazfit. Garmin was the worst, but only one or two hPa. But that doesn’t matter at all, if there was an option to manually enter sea level pressure and altitude. And even without that, it works normally, the trend is important.
            Now my Race shows almost spot on with the etalon, if I set the altitude to zero, because the etalon measures ambient pressure.

            I found the link:
            https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/340572/f7-pressure-laboratory-compare-just-for-fun

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Jan Suchánek
              last edited by 1 May 2025, 22:26

              @Jan-Suchánek Nice tests! As a scientist I deeply appreciate the data over anecdotal reports.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                PetrMisek @Jan Suchánek
                last edited by 6 May 2025, 11:36

                @Jan-Suchánek I have SV, SR and S9P. I compared all 3 with professional CHMU weather station near my home, all 3 were almost spot on, but SV is now way off, it is showing around +6 hPA more than the others… and also altitude measuring is quite unstable. So it looks like sensor problem (sensor is clean as new)…

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                  isazi Moderator @PetrMisek
                  last edited by 6 May 2025, 13:22

                  @PetrMisek my Vertical was very unstable few weeks ago, with altitude changes visible in the 2 hours graph. Got the sensor changed and now is working as expected again.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                    PetrMisek @isazi
                    last edited by 6 May 2025, 13:33

                    @isazi Great to read that, It’s similar with my watch and the barometer deviation was increasing.

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                      PetrMisek @isazi
                      last edited by 26 days ago

                      @isazi so I have my watch back from service (HSH service from Prague), they wrote me that they changed pressure sensor and gaskets and they did some tests, but when I received my Vertical and calibrate altitude my barometer has same error as before the repair. that is quite strange…

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