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    sealion.hr Bronze Member
    last edited by suzzlo 17 Oct 2018, 12:06

    I have a Stryd power meter. Do not know how to add it with SA. If I make new customized mode (Other6) with “Power 3 sec” field, I see the watch does not search for Stryd at all when starting activity.
    On a separate note, is there any way I could turn off GPS in custom sport mode (power running). I want to switch it of as Stryd gives me always more precise pace data vs GPS. Besides, switching off preserves watch energy.

    S9b titanium - latest FW
    Realme X2 - Android 11.0
    Suunto App latest beta
    Footpod: Stryd v4
    HR: Scosche Rhythm 24

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sealion.hr
      last edited by 17 Oct 2018, 12:08

      @morskilav You can do all that.

      Just pair the pod as power + pod (if I remember correctly ) and the fields will get the things you like (you will also see the icons in the prestart screen).

      Regarding the GPS off try to use an indoors move I think for now. Don’t remember well how FW 2.0.x handles that but a lot have changed.

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        sealion.hr Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 17 Oct 2018, 12:35

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos regarding Stryd I paired it as foot pod (as per instructions I found both on Stryd and Suunto sites).
        There is no Indoir running mode…I created Treadmill custom mode with Power field. It correctly searches for Stryd…but also for GPS?! Then I created Indoor cycling mode…here it doeas not search for Stryd?!..and again it searches for GPS?!

        S9b titanium - latest FW
        Realme X2 - Android 11.0
        Suunto App latest beta
        Footpod: Stryd v4
        HR: Scosche Rhythm 24

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sealion.hr
          last edited by 17 Oct 2018, 12:41

          @morskilav Try track and field running but this with the GPS is stange. Also you need to pair stryd as power as well. And pod.

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            sealion.hr Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 17 Oct 2018, 21:24

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
            I tried several custom sport modes with no success:

            • Track and field custom mode searches for GPS but does not search for Stryd (I added Power 3sec field). I want to avoid using watch GPS and its FusedSpeed when running w Stryd
            • tried Treadmil - searches for Stryd but also for GPS so no use
            • tried Other6 (why such name?!) - to no avail (searches for GPS but not for Stryd)
            • tried Running - searches for Stryd but also for GPS
            • tried even Boxing - searches only heart rate

            In a nutshell, currently SA cannot offer sport mode where I could fully use Stryd power and pace.
            I think this should be rectified in future SA releases so that we get at least Movescount customization level. Even in Movescount I do not like the fact that FusedSpeed cannot be deactivated in default modes (Running before all).

            S9b titanium - latest FW
            Realme X2 - Android 11.0
            Suunto App latest beta
            Footpod: Stryd v4
            HR: Scosche Rhythm 24

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              sealion.hr Bronze Member @sealion.hr
              last edited by 17 Oct 2018, 21:27

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I was writing Stryd related issues. I also have Scosche Rhythm24. Did not use it with SA yet, hope no issues in this department as w Stryd

              S9b titanium - latest FW
              Realme X2 - Android 11.0
              Suunto App latest beta
              Footpod: Stryd v4
              HR: Scosche Rhythm 24

              D 1 Reply Last reply 18 Oct 2018, 09:12 Reply Quote 0
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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sealion.hr
                last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 18 Oct 2018, 09:12

                @morskilav Hi we are mixing things up here.

                Please make a new post on how to use stryd with SA.

                Stryd is full supported I bet there is some misconception from your side here. (with all the respect)

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                  jthomi
                  last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 09:31

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos & @morskilav

                  Forked up the topic for all problems, issues and answer for Stryd and SunntoApp

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                    last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 09:37

                    I summon @Brad_Olwin and @Luís-Pinto for help

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                    L ? 2 Replies Last reply 18 Oct 2018, 09:53 Reply Quote 1
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                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 09:53

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @morskilav to be honest and never used SA with Stryd, because i never use SA for moves registry. Maybe @Brad_Olwin can help on this. What i know is like Dimitrios saied Stryd is supported by Suunto watches with native Power, Pace and Distance from footpod with autocalib off.

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                        aldnet
                        last edited by aldnet 18 Oct 2018, 10:14

                        Also in my case I use stryd but I setup in the sports mode via Movescount, where’s also GPS could be turned off.

                        But as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos,after pairing a Foot Pod, foot Pod could be enabled via the watch, before starting a workout, button down and set up in the options.

                        An idea how to turning off GPS is possible changing via the battery mode settings, use a personalized one, and turn gps off there.

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                          A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by A Former User 18 Oct 2018, 13:08

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Here’s the answer. It’s three fold…

                          First, pair Stryd with a Suunto watch that supports running power. Suunto 9 and Spartan do, Suunto 3 Fitness doesn’t:

                          • Pair it as foot pod

                          • Pair it as power pod (disregard anything it might say about cycling)

                          Second, create a sports mode that uses power fields – 3s power, average power, etc. I just checked: these are available alright in SA.

                          Last, when starting a power-based sport mode activity, you will see both a footpod and a power sensor icons. The footpod will connect almost immediately. The power pod will never connect and will constantly be blinking. As soon as you got lock on GPS, heart rate, and foot pod you are good to go. If one or the other aren’t shown, I recommend checking sensors section under Options in activity Start screen.

                          One final piece of advice: it appears that Stryd’s power data doesn’t start flowing in until you hit jogging/running stride and a pace of about 4.5 mph (7 km/h). So, just try to begin running slowly. The data in the fields might take a few seconds to appear, but it will be there.

                          Oh, and the real payoff: once you have power pod paired, you will be able to specify your Stryd power zones and then use them as activity intensity targets set before or during the workout, with nice warnings if you go too slow or too fast. Sadly, the intensity targets appear to work only for outdoor runs, i.e. when GPS is enabled. Can’t be triggered for treadmill.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                            last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 13:14

                            @NickK about the last part, that stryd is not following here is the why :

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                              A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 13:18

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Was it a bug or a feature? That’s the new firmware slated to arrive soon?

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                                last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 13:20

                                @NickK no clue when.

                                As I understand Power needs a rolling average filter and those filters work better with a time window.

                                Hope it makes sense.

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                                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 13:30

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes, makes perfect sense, thanks. To be honest, that initial delay was never that much of a deal breaker for me personally. Sure, it could result in some tiny distance difference when running on treadmill or using Stryd for pace/distance exclusively, but what can you do? As long as their improvements to when the numbers kick in don’t come at the price of accuracy elsewhere, I’m a happy camper.

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                                    A Former User @sealion.hr
                                    last edited by 18 Oct 2018, 13:32

                                    @morskilav Please see above. Re: using Stryd for pace/distance source as opposed to GPS, there was a discussion of this on another thread. Basically, as @Luís-Pinto pointed out: go to foot pod settings under Connectivity and disable autocalibration.

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                                      herlas Silver Members
                                      last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 19:08

                                      Hi All,

                                      Hope it’s okay to post here after such long time.

                                      While using S9B and Stryd, noticed all my workouts are having the first 1 km lap losing some seconds after the offline merge with Stryd, and the whole activity loses seconds too, all other laps are fine.

                                      Contacted Stryd and initially they thought I wasn’t waiting for the lock icon on the start screen (paired as foot pod only right now) , because all my workouts were having a consistent 7 secs of missing power data so after the offline merge they do, seems all the time that doesn’t have power data is cut off on their end.

                                      Told them I do wait for the green icon before I start, next, they advised to do a running start instead of a standing start ( I was doing the second in all my runs) so that Stryd is already recording/activated before I hit start on the watch, so did that and it was the same, didn’t make any difference reg my original issue.

                                      so I have a couple of questions here on:

                                      a) Is there an opened issue regarding this delay to record power data on the watch? in this case S9B?

                                      Stryd statement:

                                      "Our team is aware that there can be a slight delay between when Stryd starts recording and when the Suunto watch starts reading data from Stryd. Try reaching out to Suunto to see if they are aware of this issue and if there is a possibility of a future update that could help resolve this. "

                                      b) I have it paired only as food pod, should I add it as power pod too? anything besides the added benefit to run with power targets?

                                      Adding a couple of screenshots, one for the 7 second delay and one for when Stryd is already recording power and when the watch starts the activity , the power is not recording until 5-7 seconds later.

                                      Thanks a bunch for the time reading this 🙂
                                      7 secons delay.JPG

                                      seconds delay.JPG

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                                      Brad_OlwinB 1 Reply Last reply 26 Apr 2021, 23:12 Reply Quote 0
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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @herlas
                                        last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 23:12

                                        @herlas I think paired only as a power pod it might work better. I will need to check some of my older runs, I don’t use Stryd all that much.

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                                          herlas Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 29 Apr 2021, 15:09

                                          @brad_olwin thanks, is this delay in recording power there for any power meter (say cycling) or it is Stryd only, do we know?

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