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    Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2)

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    • VoiGASV Online
      VoiGAS Silver Members @Guest
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      @danct As far as I read it there are only fields for the time in the different zones - but not the zone you are currently in itself. But didn’t try it


      Race S
      Ambit3 Vertical

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        far-blue Bronze Member @far-blue
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        @isazi FYI I had the same power display dropouts on my long run yesterday. This appears to be pretty consistent new behaviour I’m getting every run.

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          maszop Bronze Member @thanasis
          last edited by maszop

          @thanasis This is the Suunto automation that replaced the manual Altimeter/Barometer mode switch found in older watches. Which, despite what people associated with Suunto have written here many times, works poorly.

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          • isaziI Offline
            isazi Moderator @far-blue
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            @far-blue okay send me the activity, I’m collecting some examples

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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            • atoponceA Offline
              atoponce @isazi
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              @isazi Here’s a run where I saw consistent power drops on my Race S despite only stopping twice at intersections. This was an easy run.

              https://maps.suunto.com/move/aarontoponce/685548cd0767c11a0a1196a9

              I dare say half the time I’m looking at my watch while in full run, the power from my Stryd foot pod either reads 0 or just coming up from 0. Because I use 30s avg for my data field, it takes a bit to climb back up.

              Suunto Race S / 9 Baro / Ambit 3 Peak / Observer
              Polar H10 / Verity Sense / OH1
              Stryd Duo / Wind

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              • Bogdan1921B Online
                Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @isazi
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                Voice feedback it’s not working. Two running exercises and no voice in my case.

                Suunto Race
                Polar H10
                Iphone 14 Pro
                Suunto 9 Baro [sold]

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                • atoponceA Offline
                  atoponce @far-blue
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                  @far-blue I decided to downgrade. I’ve got the Chicago Marathon coming up and I train by power. I don’t want to be second-guessing my power reading or babysitting the watch during my workouts.

                  Settings > General > About > scroll to bottom > hold bottom button a few seconds > secret menu appears > Select OTA pkg.

                  I had a few installed, and selected the .8 release.

                  Suunto Race S / 9 Baro / Ambit 3 Peak / Observer
                  Polar H10 / Verity Sense / OH1
                  Stryd Duo / Wind

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                    nseslija Bronze Member @far-blue
                    last edited by

                    @far-blue Same thing, on every cycling activity with power…

                    Ambit 2S
                    Ambit 3 Peak
                    Suunto 9 baro
                    Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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                      nseslija Bronze Member @isazi
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                      @isazi https://maps.suunto.com/move/nseslija/6857cc0801be5718e3eb669a

                      Ambit 2S
                      Ambit 3 Peak
                      Suunto 9 baro
                      Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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                      • Stefano M64S Offline
                        Stefano M64 Silver Members
                        last edited by Stefano M64

                        I met a problem with the maps (Lofoten, Norway), by zooming out some details disappear… 1000059280.jpg 1000059284.jpg 1000059288.jpg

                        Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @sky-runner
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                          @sky-runner Agree with you here, need to see trails and roads at low zoom levels ideally up to 5 km.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            far-blue Bronze Member
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                            @isazi I had another longer run today and tried to pay some attention to the dropouts. I think they may be related to where GPS might struggle a little more - under tree cover or underpasses etc.

                            Also, I suspect it’s actually all bluetooth because I’ve noticed random single RR values in Runalyze that are also very far out from the usually very clean datasets I get.

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                            • GiPFELKiNDG Online
                              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Stefano M64
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                              @Stefano-M64 downgrade to 2.37.48 its since many updates the BEST Firmware and stable without Crash. With every new Update Problems like yours comes to the watch. Why upgrade when the system is running without Problems. 😁😉

                              If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                              • PavlasP Offline
                                Pavlas
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                                Has anything changed for Open Water Swimming? I noticed that the measurements are very inaccurate. Last year the watch read very well. My brother has an Ocean and it still reads well. So any change in one of this year’s firmware? Has anyone had a similar experience?
                                I still swim the same way - I try to keep my watch above the water a lot 🙂

                                🔺Vertical All Black

                                ex:
                                Ambit2 Black
                                Ambit3 Peak Sapphire
                                Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium
                                S9B All Black
                                Ocean All Black (for testing only)
                                >>> YouTube Channel <<<

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @Pavlas
                                  last edited by Egika

                                  @Pavlas no change here.
                                  I have quite some recent activities with very good results. Same my partner:
                                  https://forum.suunto.com/topic/13173/tracking-open-water-swim-with-race-s/2?_=1750662933845
                                  It comes down to the same questions: Have you updated AGPS and given the watch some minutes in the pre-start screen to establish a good set of active satellites? A regular amateur freestyle swimming style should be sufficient.

                                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                  Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                  Run Lime

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                                  • PavlasP Offline
                                    Pavlas @Egika
                                    last edited by

                                    @Egika Thank you. I’ll try to wait longer. But my process is still the same. I’ll wait for the GPS signal and get in the water. I know it’s better to wait a while. But I didn’t have any problems last year. I swim breaststroke.

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                                    ex:
                                    Ambit2 Black
                                    Ambit3 Peak Sapphire
                                    Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium
                                    S9B All Black
                                    Ocean All Black (for testing only)
                                    >>> YouTube Channel <<<

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @Pavlas
                                      last edited by Egika

                                      @Pavlas then you have had exceptionally good luck in the past.

                                      Technically the following is happening with GNSS reception:

                                      The satellites continuously send out their position data and time stamps. The watch (with an incredibly small antenna to actually receive signals from space) tries to lock on those transmissions. It uses assumptions, where the satellites should be and which satellites to look for (from the AGPS data updates daily). Still those assumptions are just the starting point, and subsequently one after the other satellite is taken into the equation to calculate the current position. The data rate is pretty slow and the receiver needs to read the time stamps, the satellites are sending.
                                      Position fix is possible, when a connection to 4 or 5 satellites is established. This is, when the arrow in the watch becomes green. Still, if the connection to one or more satellites is broken, the position fix will be dropped. This can easily happen if the satellite is just above the horizon, or if you move the watch antenna away facing a different direction. Thus it is crucial, that the watch is able to follow the transmissions of as many satellites as possible.
                                      For outdoor activities usually the watch can still lock on more data streams while the activity has already started.

                                      In the water, there is no GPS reception, as the satellite signals don’t penetrate water. This means, that the watch only has fractions of a second, to read data from the (badly positioned) antenna that has super weak signals to acquire from satellites far away in space, before it is submerged again.

                                      You can help the process by waiting after the green arrow comes on. Green arrow means, the watch uses at least 4 satellites. Waiting longer ensures, that more satellites are added into the equation. If some are lost later, others can be used. 2-3 minutes is a good starting point.

                                      Plus you need to bring the watch above the water level periodically for it to continue calculation your position. Breast stroke is not really suitable for this.

                                      Conclusion: If you had good results in the past with not much waiting and swimming breaststroke, it is almost a miracle.

                                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                      Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                      Run Lime

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                                        Likarnik Bronze Member @nseslija
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                                        @nseslija sorry I can’t see power graph in your activity, how does it look? Are there drops also in fit file? So power data is wrong even when syncing to other platforms (intervals.icu for example)?

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                                        • mlakisM Offline
                                          mlakis Bronze Member
                                          last edited by mlakis

                                          Went for a training ride with power meter (Rotor INPOWER) and I can say with confidence that while riding uphill (non stop pedalling) I saw many times the power zeroing, but then on the log/SA no zeros are showing for those uphill segments.

                                          Is this replicated?

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                                          • isaziI Offline
                                            isazi Moderator @mlakis
                                            last edited by

                                            @mlakis send me a link to your activity

                                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                            Blog: isazi's home

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