Suunto Race 2 General Discussion

[safari]

@Ars-Vitae
I use vertical solar.
Yesterday, I did my first extreme camping trip since the last FW.
Even though I was on the road (steep mountain on my right, cliff on my left), they told me I was off-route That was hilarious. There’s no other way, and this route was drawn with the Suunto app.
For reliability, I’ve also shared the route video and image.

https://maps.suunto.com/move/bilal10/68c6d107ede0761cd988f37a

[Tomas5]

@Ars-Vitae it is strong in my opinion.

[Tomas5]

@Ars-Vitae i have two activities only yet. Accuracy looks good. There are some few places where it is not 100% accurate but in most of track you can see clearly on which side of road i was riding/walking. I will see later when hiking under trees or some other harder conditions.
This is worst part i found on todays 16km ride.

Other than that it looks just fine. I see few other places where not exact but still very good.

[Ars Vitae]

@safari @Tomas5 Thanks guys:) I can live with that little inaccuracies on my SV but for the new one I expect something more.

[Ars Vitae]

Has anyone checked the discrepancies between the distances and elevations planned in the Suunto app and the actual distances and elevations recorded on the watch? They are noticeable on SV, I am curious how it looks in the case of the new device.

[sky-runner]

@Ars-Vitae Suunto App planned route distances and elevation gains (ascent values) have always been quite inaccurate for me compared to Race S and Race. Distances are typically 3-5% short. Ascent can easily be 10-20% off, typically on the low side but I’ve seen cases when estimated ascent was 15-20% more than actual. I am pretty sure the app map data is inaccurate and not the watches. The situation was similar when I owned Garmin by the way. However I should mention that when I plan a route in Strava, the estimated ascent is surprisingly accurate compared to Suunto or Garmin. I think that is because they improved their elevation data with data from real activities.

[Ars Vitae]

@sky-runner Thanks, you’re right, it’s hard to blame the watch for that, and now that I think about it, I have similarly good results with planning on Strava or Komoot, although the distance on the map is always shorter than in reality.

[Danish_Nomad]

Please bring local music storage to the watch - plenty of room ion the watch itself, so hopefully this can be rolled out in a firmware update

[Steven Hambleton]

@Danish_Nomad I would definitely like to see this - I have plenty of MP3 to upload!

[Stavrogin]

@tas2581 It only comes with the small strap.

[Tomas5]

@Ars-Vitae about GPS accuracy. I was on hike today. Lot of time under the trees. I would say accuracy is same as it was with Suunto 5 (UPDATE: after comparing to 5 Peak, accuracy is better). While slow hike route is zigzag a little bit, but nothing horrible. I would say not bad, but not impresive either. In best performance mode, see screenshots.

[sky-runner]

@Tomas5 This doesn’t look very accurate. But keep in mind that maps are simplified and not always accurate. A better method to see accuracy is to overlay the recorded path on top of the heatmap - this way you can see how your device recorded a path relative to all other devices. If the recorded path is in the middle of the heatmap path, that shows high accuracy. If it is offset to one side or outside of the heatmap path, that shows poor GPS accuracy.

You can see heatmap right in the Suunto App - you can turn on the heatmap layer. But if you are a Strava subscriber, that is even better because Strava builds heatmaps based on tracks from all devices and Suunto heatmaps are limited to only Suunto devices. Also, in Suunto heatmap paths are too wide compared to Strava, which makes it harder to assess the accuracy. But nevertheless, seeing how well recorded tracks are centered on the heatmap paths is a great indicator.

Here is one example - here you can see that the map is inaccurate compared to the heatmap in at least two places, but the track is reasonably well centered on the heatmap:

[Tomas5]

@sky-runner this is with heatmap in suunto app.

[Tomas5]

And here is for compare Suunto 5 Peak. Comparing side by side, Race 2 performance is better.

It was recorded as walk so heat map is different

[Jan Suchánek]

@sky-runner In my opinion, the heatmap is also created from these inaccurate routes. So it doesn´t have to be right.