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    Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release)

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    • PavlasP Away
      Pavlas
      last edited by

      My last day with sleep tracking, notifications, and no activity—3% battery gone. I’m satisfied.

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      • Horizontal_2H Offline
        Horizontal_2 @Kraisun Tunta
        last edited by

        @Kraisun-Tunta I really would like to do some electronical engineering with this device.

        So all the problems could be related to wrong measurements?

        Would it be usefull to charge the watch for a few hours instead of take it off at 100%?

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        • Kraisun TuntaK Offline
          Kraisun Tunta @Horizontal_2
          last edited by

          @Horizontal_2 Keeping a lithium-ion battery at 100% for extended periods increases float voltage stress and high SOC dwell time, which accelerates calendar aging and long-term capacity fade.

          ✅ Potential benefit of short post-100% charging
          Better voltage stabilisation
          Improved SOC calibration
          Reduced initial phantom drop

          ❌ Downsides of prolonged charging
          Increased electrochemical stress
          Faster degradation over time
          Reduced overall battery lifespan

          Reality check:This is an engineering trade-off, not a defect.

          And honestly? Don’t overthink the battery.
          All AMOLED-based smartwatches across brands operate within very similar battery degradation envelopes. The differences are marginal, not life-changing.

          Obsessing over 1–5% variance is chasing noise, not performance.

          Use the watch. Train. Sleep. Enjoy.
          Let physics do its job.

          -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
          -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
          -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
          -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
          -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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          • Horizontal_2H Offline
            Horizontal_2 @Kraisun Tunta
            last edited by

            @Kraisun-Tunta Thanks! This is helpful!

            I guess I’m a little bit obsessed with the battery right now. I still think the drain is too high at some points. First I thought it was a hardware defect. Now I think it’s a software defect. Maybe less running with HR-belt will help 🙂

            Next cycle I’m going to throw the battery status off the watch. Do’nt wanna know till I’m at 20% 🙂

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            • GuillaumeAG Offline
              GuillaumeA
              last edited by

              Since Tuesday, 18/11/2025, I have switched back to Race 2 with the latest software.

              In terms of activities, I did: 5 hours of outdoor sports in performance mode (without AOD and with external HR) + 45 minutes indoors without GPS. Starting from a 100% charge.

              I am currently at 75% battery (i.e. just under 8% battery/day consumed with these activities). This is better than the Vertical 1, without a doubt. I find the battery life on the Race 2 quite impressive. And for me, it is very close to the specs.

              In terms of daily settings: no notifications, 24/7 HR, sleep tracking + VFC, low brightness, turn to wake up.

              Fun fact: at night, the Race 2 consumes 1% of battery. The Vertical consumes 3/4%. While the settings are strictly the same, there is one slight difference: the AMOLED is always off when the MIP works once a minute to update the time.

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              • sorinusS Offline
                sorinus @GuillaumeA
                last edited by

                @GuillaumeA said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

                Fun fact: at night, the Race 2 consumes 1% of battery. The Vertical consumes 3/4%. While the settings are strictly the same, there is one slight difference: the AMOLED is always off when the MIP works once a minute to update the time.

                if there is no movemement (at night), the MIP is going quickly in power save mode (black).

                Suunto Vertical Ti

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                • Kraisun TuntaK Offline
                  Kraisun Tunta @Horizontal_2
                  last edited by

                  @Horizontal_2 I might say Suunto’s battery calculation and power management could use some… “character development” —
                  but I enjoy my current unblocked lifestyle 😌

                  Let’s just put it this way:
                  If battery management were an Olympic sport, Suunto wouldn’t be last…
                  but it definitely wouldn’t be giving the gold medal speech either.

                  -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
                  -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
                  -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
                  -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
                  -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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                    duffman19 @Kraisun Tunta
                    last edited by

                    @Kraisun-Tunta said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

                    Obsessing over 1–5% variance is chasing noise, not performance.

                    Use the watch. Train. Sleep. Enjoy.

                    I appreciate the above discussion on battery tech and completely agree with @Kraisun-Tunta that obsessing over small fluctuations in percentages is meaningless. However, some of us are still experiencing significant battery draws that cannot be explaining by small variations in battery algorithms.

                    Last night, my 9PP went from 72% to 59% over the course of ~8 hours of sleep. Typically I’ll see a drain of 2-3% overnight. This was not the result of a “false 100%” reading after a charge, but more likely caused by unwarranted background activity.

                    If bad battery calculations were the cause, then wouldn’t we also see periods of surprising battery stability or non-draining events? I have yet to observe this.

                    Vertical Ti / S9PP Ti / S9P Ti

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                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Kramble
                      last edited by

                      @Kramble I exercise everyday so that really isn’t possible. I often wear 2 watches but most of my testing is for Suunto releases.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing/Race2Ti

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                        Calando @pavel.samokha
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                        @pavel.samokha Just tried to use user-defined pace zones with my Race 2 (SW version 2.48.16). I found that as soon as I change the predefined zone limits in ‘Settings’ > ‘Training’ > ‘Intensity zones’ > ‘Advanced zones’ > ‘Running’ > ‘Pace zones’, I cannot select pace zones for trainings anymore.

                        After changing the zone limits, the possible selections in the ‘Running’ > ‘Exercise options’ > ‘Intensity zones’ menu do not include the ‘Pace zones’ item anymore.

                        A soft reset of the watch resets the pace zones to the default values (which unfortunately are much too fast for me yet) and re-enables the ‘Pace zones’ menu entry in the ‘Running’ > ‘Exercise options’ > ‘Intensity zones’ menu.

                        This means that for now, I can only remember my pace zone limits and look at the watch often…!?

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                        • Frederick RochetteF Offline
                          Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
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                          I thought the issue had been resolved following the latest SV2 update, but after 10 days of use and very little activity, I notice that I am already at 9% battery, which is not in line with what SUUNTO had announced. I think I will end up sending the watch back to customer service.

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