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    Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release)

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    • Kraisun TuntaK Offline
      Kraisun Tunta @Horizontal_2
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      @Horizontal_2 Keeping a lithium-ion battery at 100% for extended periods increases float voltage stress and high SOC dwell time, which accelerates calendar aging and long-term capacity fade.

      ✅ Potential benefit of short post-100% charging
      Better voltage stabilisation
      Improved SOC calibration
      Reduced initial phantom drop

      ❌ Downsides of prolonged charging
      Increased electrochemical stress
      Faster degradation over time
      Reduced overall battery lifespan

      Reality check:This is an engineering trade-off, not a defect.

      And honestly? Don’t overthink the battery.
      All AMOLED-based smartwatches across brands operate within very similar battery degradation envelopes. The differences are marginal, not life-changing.

      Obsessing over 1–5% variance is chasing noise, not performance.

      Use the watch. Train. Sleep. Enjoy.
      Let physics do its job.

      -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
      -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
      -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
      -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
      -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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      • Horizontal_2H Offline
        Horizontal_2 @Kraisun Tunta
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        @Kraisun-Tunta Thanks! This is helpful!

        I guess I’m a little bit obsessed with the battery right now. I still think the drain is too high at some points. First I thought it was a hardware defect. Now I think it’s a software defect. Maybe less running with HR-belt will help 🙂

        Next cycle I’m going to throw the battery status off the watch. Do’nt wanna know till I’m at 20% 🙂

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        • GuillaumeAG Offline
          GuillaumeA
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          Since Tuesday, 18/11/2025, I have switched back to Race 2 with the latest software.

          In terms of activities, I did: 5 hours of outdoor sports in performance mode (without AOD and with external HR) + 45 minutes indoors without GPS. Starting from a 100% charge.

          I am currently at 75% battery (i.e. just under 8% battery/day consumed with these activities). This is better than the Vertical 1, without a doubt. I find the battery life on the Race 2 quite impressive. And for me, it is very close to the specs.

          In terms of daily settings: no notifications, 24/7 HR, sleep tracking + VFC, low brightness, turn to wake up.

          Fun fact: at night, the Race 2 consumes 1% of battery. The Vertical consumes 3/4%. While the settings are strictly the same, there is one slight difference: the AMOLED is always off when the MIP works once a minute to update the time.

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            sorinus @GuillaumeA
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            @GuillaumeA said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

            Fun fact: at night, the Race 2 consumes 1% of battery. The Vertical consumes 3/4%. While the settings are strictly the same, there is one slight difference: the AMOLED is always off when the MIP works once a minute to update the time.

            if there is no movemement (at night), the MIP is going quickly in power save mode (black).

            Suunto Vertical Ti

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            • Kraisun TuntaK Offline
              Kraisun Tunta @Horizontal_2
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              @Horizontal_2 I might say Suunto’s battery calculation and power management could use some… “character development” —
              but I enjoy my current unblocked lifestyle 😌

              Let’s just put it this way:
              If battery management were an Olympic sport, Suunto wouldn’t be last…
              but it definitely wouldn’t be giving the gold medal speech either.

              -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
              -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
              -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
              -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
              -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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                duffman19 @Kraisun Tunta
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                @Kraisun-Tunta said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

                Obsessing over 1–5% variance is chasing noise, not performance.

                Use the watch. Train. Sleep. Enjoy.

                I appreciate the above discussion on battery tech and completely agree with @Kraisun-Tunta that obsessing over small fluctuations in percentages is meaningless. However, some of us are still experiencing significant battery draws that cannot be explaining by small variations in battery algorithms.

                Last night, my 9PP went from 72% to 59% over the course of ~8 hours of sleep. Typically I’ll see a drain of 2-3% overnight. This was not the result of a “false 100%” reading after a charge, but more likely caused by unwarranted background activity.

                If bad battery calculations were the cause, then wouldn’t we also see periods of surprising battery stability or non-draining events? I have yet to observe this.

                Vertical Ti / S9PP Ti / S9P Ti

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Kramble
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                  @Kramble I exercise everyday so that really isn’t possible. I often wear 2 watches but most of my testing is for Suunto releases.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing/Race2Ti

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                    Calando @pavel.samokha
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                    @pavel.samokha Just tried to use user-defined pace zones with my Race 2 (SW version 2.48.16). I found that as soon as I change the predefined zone limits in ‘Settings’ > ‘Training’ > ‘Intensity zones’ > ‘Advanced zones’ > ‘Running’ > ‘Pace zones’, I cannot select pace zones for trainings anymore.

                    After changing the zone limits, the possible selections in the ‘Running’ > ‘Exercise options’ > ‘Intensity zones’ menu do not include the ‘Pace zones’ item anymore.

                    A soft reset of the watch resets the pace zones to the default values (which unfortunately are much too fast for me yet) and re-enables the ‘Pace zones’ menu entry in the ‘Running’ > ‘Exercise options’ > ‘Intensity zones’ menu.

                    This means that for now, I can only remember my pace zone limits and look at the watch often…!?

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                    • Frederick RochetteF Offline
                      Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
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                      I thought the issue had been resolved following the latest SV2 update, but after 10 days of use and very little activity, I notice that I am already at 9% battery, which is not in line with what SUUNTO had announced. I think I will end up sending the watch back to customer service.

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                      • Milan ŠádekM Offline
                        Milan Šádek Bronze Member @Frederick Rochette
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                        @Frederick-Rochette I’m in this game as well. My SV battery has dropped from 98 to as low as 38% in 4 days only. I have not used it too much, just an hour a day with GPS activity. But one day I also used H10 belt, which I suspect caused this drain.

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                          The_77 Silver Members @pavel.samokha
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                          @pavel.samokha small bug with the morning report. Despite the existence of the “x” on the right hand side, a few of the different sceoll positions don’t allow you to actually exit the report with a click of the middle button.

                          Oh and one more - if you get a notification whilst in the stopwatch menu whilst it is running, the “x” button disappears, and you can only exit via a long press of the middle button. Bit harder to reproduce but has been an issue for a while.

                          Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR / 9PP Refurb

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                            Gideon Kaempfer @The_77
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                            Vertical 2 battery with:
                            AOD on
                            Raise to wake - off (I get the dim AOD and need to press a button for more)
                            HR on 247, sleep tracking with HRV without spo2
                            Auto DND 22:00-5:40 (night mode with display off)
                            Brightness low
                            Wireless off
                            Discovery off
                            Notifications on (quite a few)
                            No external BT devices except for the app (Android phone)

                            Charged to 100% but without extra time so after first night was down to 96% (normally down 1% per night).
                            After 8 full days was down to 14% including slightly more than 15 hours of GPS activities (running and biking).
                            From more detailed measurements I conclude roughly:
                            2% per GPS activity hour
                            1% per night.
                            6% for the rest of the day (16:30 hours) without activities.

                            I could have stretched 9 days out of the battery with almost two hours of GPS activity.

                            I believe that the AOD costs me about 2% per day. Next I intend to benchmark AOD off with R2W display only. I believe I can get down to 5% per day without activities (which is according to specs) and with two hours of GPS per day I could stretch out 10 or maybe even 11 days of battery life.

                            I guess that’s about what one should expect from the watch.

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