Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release)

[pgrob]

I am new to Suunto (Race 2) and have a question about BT Discovery. Does it always have to be active for the watch to connect to the smartphone/app? Or is it only needed for connecting, i.e. so that the watch is visible to Bluetooth devices, and can be deactivated after a successful connection?

[gkaempfer]

@pgrob you need it on only for pairing. After that you can turn it off. App syncs fine when off.

[pgrob]

@Gideon-Kaempfer
Great, thank you for your quick reply. I’ll disable that then.

[pilleus]

Today in the morning all watch faces were gone, only the default one was shown on the Vertical. No choice in individual settings, there was only the default one.

After 2 hours and several syncs with the app the watch faces were back, but I have to configure it. The watch faces were in the standard configuration (colour and complications). I never had this on my Vertical.

Running the actual firmware.

[2b2bff]

I turned off my watch yesterday and turned it on today again. Watch was set to 01:01 on January 1st and told me to sync with the app before starting new adventures. It took a few attempts until the watch connected correctly to the App and has been back to normal after syncing again…
Never had this before…

[Egika]

I think it makes sense to open separate topics for the various issues one may encounter.
Posting them under the update information will maybe lead to others not finding them…

[2b2bff]

@Egika however it can be dealt with the best. It used to be tha way to report bugs in the firmware version thread, me thinks…

[Egika]

If it is FW related, it makes sense.
If it is general watch behavior, maybe better open a separate thread
Now there are questions that ask how to set the BT visibility…

[pgrob]

@Egika
Actually, I asked whether the BT Discovery setting must always be active, not where the setting needs to be made. The question arose because many people are posting their settings in this thread. That’s why I asked here. If the question was wrong, I wasn’t aware of it.

[Francesco Pagano]

@thanasis said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

The only other possible explanation would be that battery has degraded significantly over the last 2 years

I recently found something interesting looking at a JSON file downloaded from Suunto App for Mac: there are two fields named “BatteryDesignCapacity” and “BatteryFullCapacity” that suggest the current health state of the watch battery. In my case, the full capacity is over 88% of the design capacity, which seems fair after more than 2 years of use.

[v.sacre]

@Egika I think the problem is that when you have paired a footpod, even if you don’t use it, it is still reported in the file (I see in json file that a footpod is paired even if I was not wearing it).
Somebody else using stryd can test to run without stryd to see if he got those metrics ??

[SuperFlo75]

@Elmiuel I tried to deactivate the live tracking app, but the problem with the smart belt which is connecting and disconnecting all the time is the same

[Elmiuel]

@SuperFlo75 Hi SuperFlo75, in my post I referred to using 3 Bluetooth connections (tracking app, Suunto band and bike power meter). After that, I had to discard one of them because during the activity both the band and the bike power meter kept disconnecting…

Regarding what you mentioned about the band, my Suunto band, which is about a year old, also started disconnecting continuously during every activity… after examining it closely, I noticed that one of the plastic parts had a strange crease. After contacting Suunto’s warranty service, it was quickly replaced.

[SuperFlo75]

@Elmiuel ok, I only use smart belt, tracking app… the smart belt is a new one… I bought a new one for my wife not long ago… but she didn’t use it. The new belt has the same crazy behavior like my belt which is about one year old… it‘s not the belt. As this behavior started the first workout after last update, I think or hope it’s due to the firmware, and not due to the hardware.

[gone troppo]

@thanasis

I have the same except mine averages about 12% per day. I don’t think it’s battery degradation because I actually sent my watch to suunto repair in Sydney Australia and they said the battery hardware is fine. So it’s some sort of issue from an update.

To be honest I’m kind of tired talking about it. It’s exhausting and nothing has changed I doubt suunto will fix it .

[Elmiuel]

@SuperFlo75 You’ve already had a chance to test the hardware with your partner’s belt; the next step is up to Suunto. I hope both Suunto and the consumers of their devices can have a happy ending with this.

[Bartek W]

Race 2 battery drain must be related to external sensors. In my case it is Suunto Smart HR. I had Garmin HRMPro, Polar Verity Sense and StrydX paired and everything was fine. When I bought, paired and first used Suunto HR belt it the watch started to consume 15-20% per day (AOD on). When I go to list of paired devices I can see that the first 3 are inactive, but Suunto Smart seems live (its battery icon is lit up), even though I am not wearing it.

[Egika]

Battery drain can generally be caused by certain systems not properly switching off after use.
One is external BT sensors.
Another one could be the GPS chip (and possibly navigation calculation) staying alive after cancelling an activity, etc.
I know that the devs are aware that there are still issues in certain cases and that they will of course be fixed.

[Stefan Kersting]

@Bartek-W that is what I said all the way. I did a hard reset and after that all BT connections were killed. Now I have 53 % left after 7 days with some hours of GPS activity. Before the battery drained within a week

[GuillaumeA]

I definitely agree that there is a problem with the Bluetooth on the watches (especially the Vertical 1, in my case). I changed the battery in my Suunto belt a month ago, and it’s already at 50% battery life. That’s completely abnormal.

However, in my case, the reduced battery life only affects the Vertical 1: the Race 2 has excellent battery life. Furthermore, another indication that there is an issue with the Vertical 1 is that at night it consumes 3-4% of its battery, compared to the Race 2, which consumes 1%, with the same settings.