Vertical 2 resources

GiPFELKiND

@PetrMisek but bad values at the new devices

runomatic

How often do you switch between the two watches? Perhaps this also affects the data values if you don’t stick to one watch consistently.

PetrMisek

@runomatic I don´t switch now, I have on my wrist SV2 now 11 days in a row

runomatic

@PetrMisek Okay, I’m curious. I got a new Vertical 2 the day before yesterday, and at the moment, my resources aren’t decreasing particularly much. Let’s see how it goes at the weekend after the long run.

jannis

@runomatic As long as Suunto won’t update the resources, you won’t see a big difference. They messed up the algorithm completely.

GiPFELKiND

@jannis totally agree

jannis

@GiPFELKiND the newest bug regarding the resources. It shows 0% in the dashboard of the app. Only if you click on the widget, it shows you the (useless) number.

runomatic

@jannis I just rowed for 20 minutes. After that, my resources dropped noticeably.

jannis

@runomatic Yes, but when you relax now for like 1 or 2 hours, the resources will reach almost 100% again.

runomatic

@jannis No, i‘m still @ 60% now.

GiPFELKiND

@runomatic Picture please

GiPFELKiND

@jannis definitely at 100% again sorry suunto

runomatic

After four days, I can now say that the resources on my Vertical 2 are working. The behavior is similar to that of my Vertical 1.

GiPFELKiND

@runomatic great that its working for you. Its a bad experience here

jannis

@runomatic Well, as it has the same algorithm, yes, it should be the same, and that means it’s not very insightful. But if we look at the history of the resources, in the past Suunto used the algorithm from Firstbeat. It seems Firstbeat was bought by Garmin later. I think when Suunto released the Race 1 and Vertical 1, they used for short time still the same algorithm. But they announced that they will use their own algorithm soon. As far as I remember, it was quite similar to the old Firstbeat algorithm. But later, I think with the release of the Race S, they changed again the algorithm for whatever reasons and since then it’s broken. The Race 2 and Vertical 2 have now the same algorithm. It’s quite disappointing that so much time has passed, and Suunto still hasn’t solved this problem.

2b2bff

@jannis said in Vertical 2 resources:

It’s quite disappointing that so much time has passed, and Suunto still hasn’t solved this problem.

This seems to be a theme lately…

That said I found the Race S not too bad at resources. It’s not Garmin body battery, but can be quite good…

PetrMisek

@runomatic O.K., and what value do you have set for rest HR?

runomatic

@PetrMisek I’m at 65 there.

Little update: After the long run at the weekend, my resources dropped to 15. I didn’t sleep particularly well, so this morning they went up to 85. So it seems that i’m the lucky guy who don’t have any problems with that.

PetrMisek

@runomatic I have set there new value 3 days ago - 50, it my avg HR from last 7 days, but during the day my HR is higher and rersources are going up like when I am resting. I don’t know if the algorithm also uses HRV in this calculations.

2b2bff

@PetrMisek the consens in here is to set it about 10bpm higher than you actual resting HR…