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    Subject: Feedback on Zone Sense accuracy: Short intervals and Zone 2 threshold shifts

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    • sky-runnerS Offline
      sky-runner Platinum Member @2b2bff
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      @2b2bff I started to climb a steep slope 4-5 minutes into the run, and even though I walked the slope until about 10 minutes into the activity, my HR quickly raised to the top of zone 3. But arguably, ZoneSense shouldn’t be detecting thresholds in this situation.

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            Sent two images from Google Drive, don’t know if it works …

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              please, stop posting the same link. Attach the image here

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @sky-runner
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                @sky-runner There is something strange here. I rarely get an LT threshold from ZS, only when I am doing Tempo (at my LT) intervals or running intervals (above my LT). I do not get LT thresholds with typical Endurance runs done mostly in Zone2 with some Zone3.
                As I have stated before my AT threshold will differ by a lot, when fresh it equals my lab-based number, done when I was well rested but when training hard my AT can be near the bottom of Z2 for me, which makes total sense as I am fatigued.
                Again, I don’t think ZS should be used to set your zones unless you have a lot of data. I do not change my zones based on ZS predictions but I find ZS helpful in real time as:

                1. Keep me from going to hard early in a long run/race as I feel good.
                2. To go harder on long training runs when I might slow down as I am getting tired.

                To conclude, there is something wrong with your data, using ZS for a long time I have never seen what you show here. I do not know what HR belt you are using. Moreover, I don’t think that the discussion on ZS should be primarily on where zones are predicted.

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                  @sartoric How do you do ?

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                        A simple copy-paste? Seriously? That’s it
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                          In the areas where Zone Sense marks the curve in red (anaerobic), I was clearly in zone 3. I could count or recite the alphabet without any trouble, yet the watch showed me at the absolute limit of the red zone.

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