Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?
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@brechtvb said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:
But what puzzles me for even the high end watches have low resolution and small screens.
Because there are simply no MIP displays available that are high resolution or larger than 1.4". Furthermore, even if someone tried to produce a high resolution MIP display it would have a low contrast and look awful. This is a physical limitation of the technology. There has to be a tiny lens and color filter in front of every pixel, and that is difficult to scale to a higher resolution.
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@sky-runner
I think the resolution is fine as it is with V1.
only because there are higher resolutions on the market doesn’t mean we must implement them in watches.
I find even the map very good to read with its topographic details -
It is difficult to say exactly, but the main problem with MIP or AMOLED visibility in fill sun is probably not the technology, but maybe the sapphire vs traditional glass?
I dont know…
Today I compared Coros Nomad MIP/glass vs Vertical 1 MIP/shappire in the forest and I think Nomad has better experiences of visibility because of to much sun reflects on V1 with shappire:
my original post:
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Never had a problem to read any MIP, but could not stand the distraction and „noise“ of the Amoled Display. I prefer a not phony watch outdoor much more and also in the office…
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@suuntastic
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Just had a four hour hike yesterday with the V1 Solar on a sunny day. I had the map on all the time because it was unknown territory. Ths works absolutely perfect on MIP (V1) and not really on AMOLED (Race S).
On the Race S it switches to a reduced AOD mode and is not as readable in the Sun. Also Battery lifetime shrinks a lot. So for Hiking MIP has big advantages
Race S
Vertical Titanium Solar
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@VoiGAS Do you have na experience with AMOLED on the sun and sunglasses? Probably the AMOLED is less visible…
Suunto Vertical + Polar H10
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@Adrian.S I have a V2, came from V1, I find the Amoled screen on the V2 easy to read in bright sunlight and dark glasses. I have the display always on.
It was my main concern buying the V2 that I would find conditions when I couldn’t read it but so far I haven’t encountered any.
Only caveat is if the V2 is on a bike handlebars. It isn’t as easy to follow at the V1. I use a Wahoo bike computer so no big deal for me but I’d use the V1 as my only navigation aid. I’d struggle to do this with the V2. But on the wrist the screen lights up immediately and is very easy to read in bright sunlight and dark glasses.
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@Adrian.S Yes, but also had problems with the MIP. But it depends on the sunglasses
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@VoiGAS said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:
On the Race S it switches to a reduced AOD mode and is not as readable in the Sun. Also Battery lifetime shrinks a lot. So for Hiking MIP has big advantages
The Race S has a different screen technology than R2 and V2, the latter are LTPO and makes a huge difference. The R2 and V2 are the only AMOLED screens I can use and see when on snow doing SkiMo.
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@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome.
For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update.
Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands.But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio
