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    • herlasH Online
      herlas Silver Members @Stoke80
      last edited by herlas

      @Stoke80 @honzas avg power on Suunto will be higher than bike computers, I use karoo third gen, the reason is Suunto computes avg power leaving out zeros ( e.g. While coasting), good thing is they also give power with zeros. If you’re interested in L/R balance from Assiomas, then you’d have to use a bike computer. But as far as Suunto watch, Assiomas send the real power avg taking into consideration both sides and giving that computed to the watch, watch will only pair to one pedal, usually left one but that’s enough as soon as pedals are in Duo mode in Assiomas app.

      SRS Ti
      SRun (primarily road runner so testing SRun is a must ;))
      A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
      Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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        HonzaS @herlas
        last edited by HonzaS

        @herlas Yes, Suunto shows both average powers, with and without zeros and in Wahoo settings, you can set if you want average power with zeros or without. I have set this to without zeros and I got SMALLER average power without zeros from Suunto than on Wahoo. Never got higher values from Suunto. On last ride, the difference was 3,6%. It’s clear, that algorithm will differ Suunto vs. Wahoo, but I think, this difference is high and this is the reason, that I’m not sure, if Suunto really doesn’t count auto pauses to the average power…
        With connecting to device which doesn’t support dual sided wattmeter, Assiomas should send the instantaneous power at a given time and it should be the sum of both pedals.

        EDIT: On ride with “longer” snack pause, the difference was 5,1%.

        EDIT2: So no, the difference is not because of auto pause🫤.

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          Stoke80 @HonzaS
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          @herlas

          Thank you for those insights. Does the watch really still only connect to one pedal? I hoped that has been solved with one of the updates, which made the watches able to connect to more than one sensor of the same type. Or is there a difference between the Suunto Run and the other watches due to the different software?

          Many thanks as well to the others for their answers.

          Now I just have to decide whether I want to afford the pedals or not.

          Since I’m more of an ambitious recreational athlete, I don’t really need it. On the other hand, I am a friend of technical gadgets. That’s why it appeals to me.

          Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S / Suunto Race 2

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            nseslija Bronze Member @Stoke80
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            @Stoke80 I have Assioma DUO paired with V1. The watch connect to one pedal, but the readings are from the both pedals.

            Ambit 2S
            Ambit 3 Peak
            Suunto 9 baro
            Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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              herlas Silver Members @Stoke80
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              @Stoke80 one pedal will be enough, when Assiomas are working as Duo, they’ll be presented as one power source only. So it’s not an issue. Zwift works the same way, it can only read one pedal but it’s enabled to leverage the data sent by Assiomas and show you L/R balance.

              SRS Ti
              SRun (primarily road runner so testing SRun is a must ;))
              A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
              Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                Stoke80 @herlas
                last edited by

                Thank you again for all your answers.

                As what type of sensor did you connect the Assioma Pedals with the Suunto Watch? As power meter?

                Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S / Suunto Race 2

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                  herlas Silver Members @Stoke80
                  last edited by

                  @Stoke80 yes

                  SRS Ti
                  SRun (primarily road runner so testing SRun is a must ;))
                  A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                  Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                    MdzOtt @Stoke80
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                    @Stoke80 this is how Assioma works. Only one pedal connects to the watch or bike computer. But if you have a Duo, that one pedal passes data from both pedals

                    R2
                    S9 Baro
                    SA on Android
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                    Ambit 2 Sapphire

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                      Stoke80 @MdzOtt
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                      @MdzOtt

                      Hi there. Thank you for that explanation.

                      Just to get it right. That is the behaviour of the Assioma pedals with all devices (Garmin, Wahoo etc)?

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                        MdzOtt @Stoke80
                        last edited by

                        @Stoke80 correct (this how Assioma pedals work)

                        R2
                        S9 Baro
                        SA on Android
                        Ambit 3 Peak
                        Ambit 2 Sapphire

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                          MdzOtt
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                          I just got back from a bike ride and I compared how the average power was calculated in Strava, SA, and Garmin Connect.

                          Strava is always the lowest (on this particular ride - 122 W), Garmin Connect is in the middle - 123 W, and SA shows 129 W and 122 W with zeros.

                          I wouldn’t read much from the 122/123 difference, but to me both Strava and Garmin show the average power with zeros (?).

                          R2
                          S9 Baro
                          SA on Android
                          Ambit 3 Peak
                          Ambit 2 Sapphire

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                            herlas Silver Members @MdzOtt
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                            @MdzOtt yes, SA is the one not doing it ;). In my case with Karoo Gen 3 I see same avg power with zeros included (gold standard) like you get see with garmin/Strava

                            SRS Ti
                            SRun (primarily road runner so testing SRun is a must ;))
                            A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                            Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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