Race 3S & Race 3 rumours
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@dreamer_ FCC filing is saying something about AI Coach?
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@Gunnar why would it? FCC is about tests needed if a device emits EMR. This is entirely about WiFi, BT and other radio signals and has nothing to do with features or functions.
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@dreamer_ FCC filing is saying something about AI Coach?
No. That information was cached by Google from Suunto’s official site.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1v78ze2/suunto_race_3_google_ai_results/
Patents are only hardware related, not software things.
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@Egika perhaps my post was misunderstood. The discussion was about AI Coach. You said that @dreamer_ should not take rumours for granted and @dreamer_ posted a link to the FCC filing and wrote that it is more than rumours. Might be misunderstandings.
I am not sure if one can trust the “cached Google sites”, can be faked or whatever. So everything about AI Coach is for me just rumour. Can be true or not. Time will tell. -
@Gunnar AI coach is a rumor based on smth that was temporary on Suunto website, FCC filling is a different thing and it is for hardware, based on that we know Run 2, Race 3 and Race 3S is most likely coming.
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@matram agree.
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
For example, Polar provides 5 years of support:
https://support.polar.com/en/supported-polar-products
And Coros is atill updating the Apex 2 Pro with everything, even their new Climb screens (watch released in 2022):
https://support.coros.com/hc/en-us/articles/20087492454932-COROS-APEX-2-Pro-Release-Notes
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Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.
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Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.
Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…
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Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.
Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…
It’s not about maintaining additional models; they don’t deliver on their promises. I am okay with them launching a model every 6 months. The problem is they forget to fine-tune real issues. With every software update, they introduce a new set of bugs, and they don’t look at them or totally ignore them.
For example, most of us have complaints about battery performance issues that go unaddressed, which is critical compared to the heartbeat (just an example).
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Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
The faster pace you release new devices, the more devices you have to support… That is the problem about releasing devices in shorter intervals.
Or perhaps the revenue is a lot more than the cost of maintaining an additional device. That is something that only Suunto will know…
It’s not about maintaining additional models; they don’t deliver on their promises. I am okay with them launching a model every 6 months. The problem is they forget to fine-tune real issues. With every software update, they introduce a new set of bugs, and they don’t look at them or totally ignore them.
For example, most of us have complaints about battery performance issues that go unaddressed, which is critical compared to the heartbeat (just an example).
To be completely honest, I personally had that same impression with the previous generation and again with this one regarding updates—especially with this Q2 release, which strikes me as rather underwhelming given the high expectations, particularly concerning the much-discussed navigation feedback. I don’t know if they’ve been focusing on new devices or what the reason is, but that is purely my own perception. It is understandable how frustrating it is to wait months for something like the Q2, only to receive an update that not only leaves previous-generation watches behind but also leaves the latest generation fixes in limbo—forcing you to think you’ll have to wait months all over again.
I also believe that seeking higher profits shouldn’t mean neglecting to bolster your teams to address development shortcomings. In fact, higher profits should provide more financial margin to increase the development team resources.Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.
Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Run
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@dreamer_ said:
Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.Suunto China has already open MCP, had it before Coros.
Watch: Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Black
Blog: isazi's home
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@dreamer_ said:
Regarding AI, Coros has coincidentally been working on an MCP connector in recent updates, allowing any AI to connect directly to Coros without relying on third-party platforms—a direct, free connection. Suunto should take note of this; if they truly intend to charge for AI-based training features, having a competitor offer this for free would reflect very poorly on Suunto.Suunto China has already open MCP, had it before Coros.
Keep in mind that the comment is based on the subscription information that was “found” on the Suunto website. For the time being, the MCP connector is only available on Coros devices globally.
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@dreamer_ I do not comment on leaks and rumors, I was talking about this https://mcp.suunto.cn/mcpguide
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@dreamer_ vertical 1 released in may 2023…no update since Q4-2025 update (new features).
I still have not got over it… it will take some times. People will say fixed bug will be released OK / there is hardware limitation for vertical 1 OK
but I expect longer lifetime for receiving feature for a watch cost me 800eur.
As you mentioned Coros provided new climb screens for watch released in 2022…watching new watch release from couch now and enjoy my lovelly vertical 1
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@Wilson75 why do you buy stuff with expectations of new features?
S9
S9 Peak
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@Richard-Thygesen speciallly Navigation and maps features introduced in Q1 release and New offline map labels introduced in Q2.
The rest is nice to have.
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@Wilson75 why do you buy stuff with expectations of new features?
This is 2026 - not 1996.
This is the norm these days and if the competition is providing new features then so shall Suunto if they want to compete.
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@Mads-Hintz-Madsen That is why some of us want to get back to 1996, where our devices are not getting enshitified over the time.
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@Wilson75 why do you buy stuff with expectations of new features?
This is 2026 - not 1996.
This is the norm these days and if the competition is providing new features then so shall Suunto if they want to compete.
@Mads-Hintz-Madsen That is why some of us want to get back to 1996, where our devices are not getting enshitified over the time.
Funny on how I agree with both of you ahaha
Had a bit of same experience with the 945 LTE and 965, new range, and ops no new features.
The truth like others said. I don’t needed it. But I also believe there is some psycolgy of buying under it that makes us want to buy devices that are supported and have newer features for long time. I was surprised to see HR Broadcast on the race s for example.Also as @aiv4r said, some features are so poorly done that we almost prefer to not have it. It is either as complicated as for the costumer and for an enterprise to both buy the correct product and to launch the correct product (that will sell).
For your own health, enjoy what you have, and remember, the most powerful way to make a difference with a company is either buying or not buying from her. And remember, that maybe, just maybe, the rant and issues we have on the forum, are not the average joe experience (for every brand). -
@André-Faria Yea exactly. I am also not against new features and new stuff in general, but lately I see too many features coming out of the thin air, that just makes everything less straightforward and more complicated (not only from Suunto, mostly from other brands, or brands copying stuff from each other)
There is a lot of good stuff added over time but it is also overcomplicating some stuff that is supposed to be easy.And yes that is why we have this forum, to rant and to discuss things which might be important or less important
Suunto Race 2 (Titanium Trail)
Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)
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