any news about new firmware?

[André Faria]

@isazi said:

@André-Faria I do not work at Suunto, I guess they use LLMs there, but I have no idea how and how much.

I was asking in general, not suunto specified

[isazi]

@André-Faria at my institute we use LLMs, I am not a huge fan, but there are ways in which they can help developers. It is still early days though, IMHO, and we will see what the real effect is in few years from now.

[karmazynowycukiereczek]

@elbee said:

bluetooth connection problem and battery drain

So not only me? thats why I am here.

Its going down so fast! I have to charge my watch every 7 days, before was like 10-12 days…

Can i come back with update like 2-3 back?

[withManish]

@elbee I am with you, totally frustrated with their repetitive issues

[elbee]

@withManish

So far, it seems that regularly reboots (like in weekly or more) and occasional depletion of the battery mitigates my 2 biggest problems: battery drain of 15% per night and I couldn’t do a 7 hours hike when I started with 48% battery left and bluetooth connection lost to my heart rate sensor and stryd during workouts.

Suunto isn’t working on fixing those 2 problems and definitely not for my race s.

On the other hand, my previous (expensive!) garmin forerunner 965 I sold after about a year of use due to the many annoyances. My race s I still use for almost 2 years. Most of the time it’s fine.

[Geoffwilli]

@karmazynowycukiereczek
Exact same issues with regards battery drain.

I did a test setting my watch on a table and starting a full GPS activity, after six hours it had lost 16% of the battery. The following day I put the watch in the same place for 6 hours just on standby mode with 24 hour HR tracking and the watch lost 8% of the battery.

Surely the watch shouldn’t be loosing as much battery just in standby mode!?

I had gone down the route of contacting suunto support, and after loads of emails they acknowledged there was an issue but would only offer me 10% off a new watch.

I’m still hoping that a fix is coming.

[Tony Monteiro]

Hello, I’m following the drain battery since many days and that are the data that I collected :
I’m a little bit short in data for GPS Perfoamance + HR because I’m injured so I don’t do activities of more than 50 minutes
I don’t know if somebody has also data collection like that. (for information I have a Race Titanium)

[Tony Monteiro]

I have a little bit more data, clearly, on the night more the battery is low more the drain is high.
during the day, there is no change (I don’t have enought data between 0 and 20% during the day)

[Alejandro Pérez Beneyto]

Still waiting the new firmware.

I’m thinking about Suunto forgot us. Maybe it’s time to move to another brands…

[sunter]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto I am also checking every day

[isazi]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto before the end of the year Race should get an update, as far as I know

[Richard Thygesen]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto is it so critical to get updates that you change brand if you don’t get them?
Why is people buying watches based on what they can be and not what they are?

[Egika]

@Richard-Thygesen I also don’t understand this…
Plus you never know what changes an update will bring and if it actually banefits your individual use case

[enneo]

@Richard-Thygesen in my personal case, I am not hoping for new features, only to receive fixes of the regressions introduced with the most recent firmwares (BT disconnections, map details missing at 500m and black grids)

[2b2bff]

@Richard-Thygesen so, your watches are bug free?

[elbee]

@Richard-Thygesen said:

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto is it so critical to get updates that you change brand if you don’t get them?
Why is people buying watches based on what they can be and not what they are?

2 things:

These are watches with updatable firmwares. That’s what they are.

And I reported quite some bugs I really want a fix for. Or is it too much to ask that bugs can be solved?

[Richard Thygesen]

@2b2bff yes, for my use case it actually seems to be.
But I only use it for running, cycling strength training and the occasional downhill skiing and hiking.

[Richard Thygesen]

@elbee I also like updates but I don’t expect them. I think there is a larger question in this and that is that the customers demand more and more functions that seem to introduce more and more bugs and Suunto is not the only brand with this problem . I think we will have to live with bugs as long as we demand more and more complicated functions.

[aiv4r]

@Richard-Thygesen there is always part of people that will change to different brand due to slightest inconvenience. Other part has fomo and are afraid to not get new features from other brands. A lot of users of sportswatches are just datanerds that wants new and shiny all the time. Another part of users just want theit bugs fixed, but bugs are not getting fixed since brands are cooking new functions instead, unless the bug is critical enough. A sports-watch sector is kind of becoming techbro’s sector with occasional usage for sports.
With every update I am a bit afraid that they gonna f-up something I use, so I am definitely not waiting for updates, unless it is smth like ZoneSense where it is just super interesting.

[Richard Thygesen]

@aiv4r totally agree!