any news about new firmware?

[Tony Monteiro]

I have a little bit more data, clearly, on the night more the battery is low more the drain is high.
during the day, there is no change (I don’t have enought data between 0 and 20% during the day)

[Alejandro Pérez Beneyto]

Still waiting the new firmware.

I’m thinking about Suunto forgot us. Maybe it’s time to move to another brands…

[sunter]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto I am also checking every day

[isazi]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto before the end of the year Race should get an update, as far as I know

[Richard Thygesen]

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto is it so critical to get updates that you change brand if you don’t get them?
Why is people buying watches based on what they can be and not what they are?

[Egika]

@Richard-Thygesen I also don’t understand this…
Plus you never know what changes an update will bring and if it actually banefits your individual use case

[enneo]

@Richard-Thygesen in my personal case, I am not hoping for new features, only to receive fixes of the regressions introduced with the most recent firmwares (BT disconnections, map details missing at 500m and black grids)

[2b2bff]

@Richard-Thygesen so, your watches are bug free?

[elbee]

@Richard-Thygesen said:

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto is it so critical to get updates that you change brand if you don’t get them?
Why is people buying watches based on what they can be and not what they are?

2 things:

These are watches with updatable firmwares. That’s what they are.

And I reported quite some bugs I really want a fix for. Or is it too much to ask that bugs can be solved?

[Richard Thygesen]

@2b2bff yes, for my use case it actually seems to be.
But I only use it for running, cycling strength training and the occasional downhill skiing and hiking.

[Richard Thygesen]

@elbee I also like updates but I don’t expect them. I think there is a larger question in this and that is that the customers demand more and more functions that seem to introduce more and more bugs and Suunto is not the only brand with this problem . I think we will have to live with bugs as long as we demand more and more complicated functions.

[aiv4r]

@Richard-Thygesen there is always part of people that will change to different brand due to slightest inconvenience. Other part has fomo and are afraid to not get new features from other brands. A lot of users of sportswatches are just datanerds that wants new and shiny all the time. Another part of users just want theit bugs fixed, but bugs are not getting fixed since brands are cooking new functions instead, unless the bug is critical enough. A sports-watch sector is kind of becoming techbro’s sector with occasional usage for sports.
With every update I am a bit afraid that they gonna f-up something I use, so I am definitely not waiting for updates, unless it is smth like ZoneSense where it is just super interesting.

[Richard Thygesen]

@aiv4r totally agree!

[elbee]

@Richard-Thygesen said:
. I think we will have to live with bugs as long as we demand more and more complicated functions.

I don’t expect new features but I do expect the features that exist to work properly.

And I’m the first to react in the features request topics why feature requests might be not very well thought out. Consequences of adding extra complexity is one of the arguments.

I think the features request topics are more the place where you should make your point.

Why Suunto developers couldn’t release a firmware update for so long is a complete other story. Being a software developer myself, I know this isn’t a good sign. (Could be anything, incapable developers, out of control complexity of the software, lack of funding. All equally bad for getting bugs fixed)

[sunter]

@elbee I expect at least ability to set hr zones for external activities…

[isazi]

@sunter as far as I can see, this feature is still not ready

[2b2bff]

@sunter said:

@elbee I expect at least ability to set hr zones for external activities…

IMHO this is more of a Suunto App feature than a watch feature…

[2b2bff]

@elbee said:

I don’t expect new features but I do expect the features that exist to work properly.

This!
I’d rather have a bugfix release without any new features and another release later with newer features. But sadly this is not the way Suunto does it…

[sunter]

@2b2bff It can be developed on both sides.

I think hammerhead developed very nice solution where you can use Third Party Sync and you also have the option to manually update your Training metrics.
I am syncing my Power and HR zones from intervals.icu.

https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/25219578603291-Dashboard-Training-Metrics

[Stefano Zanolla]

@isazi said:

@Alejandro-Pérez-Beneyto before the end of the year Race should get an update, as far as I know

@isazi that would be amazing!
(first series Race user here, no compains about battery TBH)

What about Race S and battery life on the latest firmware?
My girlfriend’s watch is perfect for her, except for this annoying “bug”…

Thank you for your insights!