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      Dusan Holub @VoiGAS
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      @VoiGAS said:

      Tried it today with a simple sticker as insulation and the anomalies were the same or worse. So thats not enough 😞

      From technical point of view - I think you have made a different setup because Inge’s 1. is a loop of enough conducting rubber shielding / shortening static. 2. It creates a gap between clothes and electronics which reduces tansfer of electrostatic charge into electronics.
      I guess both factors are important. Shielding is not trivial problem in electronics. Let us wait for others to test and we will see. Till now, Inge’s solution makes sense to me more than putting a sticker / insluation directly in electronics box. If you are willing to test something, wrap it with aluminium foil all arround, be careful not to shorten electrodes in the belt. That would be interesting experiment proving if shileding is enough or there must be also a gap.

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        SODIUM
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        How should we interpret the Avg GCT:FT Ratio these days? The percentage seems quite high. Does anyone understand what this metric means and how to interpret it correctly?

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          matram Bronze Member @SODIUM
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          @SODIUM
          It is as the name says, Ground Contact Time divided by Flight Time.

          The help text says Elite Level is 1.1 - 1.4. What is a bit confusing is that the value is shown in the app as a percentage. So for a recent run I had 1.34 which is shown as 134%.

          I would guess that Suunto measures GCT and cadence and then compute FT and this metric from GCT and cadence.

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            snow*
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            fw 3.2.6.8 available
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              VoiGAS Gold Members
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              Interesting. Does anyone know what 1) and 2) in the list is? Running Form and Light Reminder?


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                snow* @VoiGAS
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                @VoiGAS I guess light reminder is the LED info and running form are GCT, VO, etc

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                  VoiGAS Gold Members @snow*
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                  @snow that would make sense


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                    jthomi Moderator Gold Members Silver Members
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                    So, the new Belt is officially not compatible with S9PP, but it works, may not with all new functions on the watch… and I have to find a solution like some thingie around the sensor so it works properly? Do I read this right?

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                      Egika Platinum Member @jthomi
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                      @jthomi 9 Peak Pro is not listed here, but since it has been successfully tested with 9 Peak, the chances are very high it works with 9 Peak Pro as well.
                      And yes, additional running form data will not show.
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                      I am not wrapping anything around my belt and would regard this as voodoo.
                      Suunto has ESD labs and compared different devices and measures there. I would trust this more than a piece of bicycle tube.

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                        Jan Van de Velde Bronze Member @Egika
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                        @Egika I do agree that wrapping a bicycle tube around the sensor seems to be ludicrous. However one can’t say that it is working properly. Herewith some examples from the last 3 weerks:

                        • The firsts run was immediately the worst. I tightened the belt afterwards, this helped.
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                        • The most recent run. Here it took about a half hour to pick up on my actual hearth rate. First a too low reading then to high and then too low again. The belt was sufficiently tight and moist.
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                        • Another run. Here it took ‘only’ 10 minutes.
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                        • Another run. Here it took 19 minutes (of a 33 min run) for a good reading.
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                          I also have issues with bike rides. Sometimes the HR just peaks to 180+ without any external reason but this is more difficult to show on the graphs. I switched from a H10 for the memory function of the SHRM2, but never had these issues before. Needless to say that I am seriously considering to return the unit. The only thing that is stopping me is the fact that Suunto has a history to make their hardware better with firmware updates.
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                          2b2bff Gold Members
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                          Coming back to the running metrics. Especially for GCT:FT is there somebody that has values in the ranges of the description? I just wonder whether the data / description is wrong, or I might be really bad at this. Even during the last race I did the mean is 282.7%, well in the “inefficient” range…

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                            Speed Man Bronze Member @2b2bff
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                            @2b2bff
                            The foot stays in contact with the ground approximately 2.8 times longer than it stays in the air. This is why the app displays a value of 282.7%.

                            I suspect this figure may need to be divided by two because GCT is measured separately for the left and right feet. If we divide 2.8 by 2, the result is approximately 1.4.

                            However, this is only my hypothesis at this stage. We need to wait for Suunto to confirm how the GCT:FT Ratio is calculated before drawing any conclusions.

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                              2b2bff Gold Members @Speed Man
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                              @Speed-Man in my books there are three possibilities:

                              • Calculation is wrong
                              • Explanation text is wrong
                              • My form is worse than I think it is

                              All of this could be the case at the same time. I just want to know 😉

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                                VoiGAS Gold Members
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                                Today, (different) merino shirt and electrode gel - its a mess
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                                  Speed Man Bronze Member @VoiGAS
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                                  @VoiGAS I’m not sure if it’s caused by the way you’re wearing it or its position, but it seems to vibrate.

                                  For me, it works well, even when wearing a 100% polyester shirt, as long as it’s a lightweight sleeveless top. I do occasionally experience some dropouts, possibly when increasing speed or due to vibrations during movement.
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                                    VoiGAS Gold Members @Speed Man
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                                    @Speed-Man Interesting, thank you! It was a Trail Run and indeed this time I felt it was moving a lot.
                                    Strange, because it was quite snug. I wear it on the lower half of the rib cage - is there a ‘perfect position’ for it?


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                                      Egika Platinum Member @VoiGAS
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                                      @VoiGAS https://lmgtfy.com/?q=position+HR+chest+belt&t=i

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                                        MarTej_cz @VoiGAS
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                                        @VoiGAS https://www.suunto.com/en-cz/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit2_r/suunto_ambit2_r/pouivani-sportovnich-reim/nasazeni-hrudniho-pasu/

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                                          VoiGAS Gold Members @MarTej_cz
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                                          @MarTej_cz @egika : Thank you, I think I deserve it…
                                          I was hoping for personal experience with the Suunto belt. I heard there were even experiments like wearing it on the back or on the belly.


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                                            MarTej_cz @VoiGAS
                                            last edited by MarTej_cz

                                            @VoiGAS Good 😉. The belly-wearing experiment could be interesting, Watch 💩 😂

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