Suunto AI Coach discussion
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@greenfish29 I guess they will keep the free MCP read-only, it won’t allow us to “send workouts” from an AI client.
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@danutz ah, thats why. I watched the video and I think the Write-Access features are interesting: Route planning and creation of structerrd trainings. The analyzing things not so much. But if it wouldn’t cost more than a TrainingPeaks account it could be a reason to switch. If the created plans are better then MyPlan…
What I don’t get is how this could be not available to older watches. Its just a functionality of the App
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@VoiGAS it of course will work with current watches.
You are correct, that it is an app thing.
Just now for the start it comes free for Race3s customers, before being rolled out to everyone later. -
@Egika Good to hear! There is a comparison table on the (german) Suunto website saying otherwise, but I also didn’t think so
“Unterstützt keinen KI Coach” means “Doesn’t support AI Coach”
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@VoiGAS yes, that’s wrong, I have tested the AI Coach with all watches in the current lineup of Suunto, it is fully on the app. Of course because the service is currently limited to Race 3S owners, it is kinda tied to the watch
But I believe it serves the purpose of not flooding the service from day 1, making it unstable or too expensive. It will grow naturally with the feedback of R3S users, and be open to everyone in 2027.
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@isazi I don’t want to come across as nerdy or condescending, but wouldn’t the feedback from the existing users be generally more useful, compared to the people who are new to the platform?
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@oleksandr well, there will be people buying a Race 3S that are already Suunto users, and there are also other ways this is being tested. I have used if for few months, and so have others.
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@isazi is there any way to get the access sooner? I like the 3s, but can’t imagine switching to it from Race 2. That’s the most comfortable watch with the large screen I ever owned, and the watches with the smaller screens now look tiny in comparison
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On the discussion topic: I’m really curious how this AI feature will work out for Suunto. I’m a software engineer, and I know for sure that building this kind of AI agents takes a lot of time and resources. Unless it offers something mind-blowing, people won’t pay for it. They already pay for Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini and so on, which also help them with their daily life and work. A free MCP with read and write access would definitely have been the right move for Suunto, especially since Coros already has one and other third parties allow this too. Someone could argue that using it would be much easier than setting up an MCP. But non-technical people are getting better at using AI tools, and AI companies are really pushing for this.
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@danutz
I agree that the write capability would be the important new feature. Personally I use a combination of Claude and intervals.icu for analysis and training suggestions. I honestly do not see what Suunto could add in the form of analysis functionality that would compel me to pay for another service.But I think that updates to the Suunto OS would be needed to support uploading structured workouts. Currently structured workouts are packaged in Suunto Guides that contain the structure, and the guides do nto have configurable data screens.
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After i activated my R3s and play a little bit with Suunto AI I’m pairing my Run 2 and my V2 and Suunto AI work again.
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@Mi_chael AI coach is not supposed to be linked to watches ; but activation for now is linked to SRs3 purchase.
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Yes it is but Suunto Ai don’t care about the watch you use.
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But I think that updates to the Suunto OS would be needed to support uploading structured workouts
Not necessarily. They could let AI create a Suunto Guide, like other third party services can do now. But I agree about structured workouts, a native structured workouts feature would be a very welcome feature!
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@danutz that already works in the Suunto AI, you can create guides based on your request to the bot
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@danutz that already works in the Suunto AI, you can create guides based on your request to the bot
Is it also possible to configure the fields shown in the guide, or is the guide fixed based on the target type?
I look forward to hearing more about this feature
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@matram I do not know, in theory it should be possible (to a degree). It is already possible for third-parties to customize (to a degree) the S+ guides screen, and you can already see that different parties implement them slightly different.
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@danutz write access is super scary for mcp. 3rd parties are limited to api. Additionally they offer buffer , cache etc.
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