Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin

MiniForklift

@freeheeler said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

…and Suunto does not try to convince us to start golfing…

Good… I have enough frustrations in my life already

I’m with Brad, would love to see a dedicated climbing/elevation screen. I used the Polar Grit X Pro for a month or so and that had one and it was excellent; it told you exactly where you were on your run, you could see the upcoming climbs and all of the climb info was there on the screen as you were ascending

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If we could get something like this or better for Suunto that would be a massive plus in my eyes, and I think it would really put us head and shoulders above the rest

MiniForklift

I just realised that the OP posted this ages ago and he never came back on to say which watch he ended up getting

After 150+ posts on Garmin Vs Suunto it seems like he went with an Apple Watch 4 ?! His last post was a year and a half ago and pretty much all 16 of them were anti-Suunto. Sounds like his Apple watch ticked all of the boxes, obviously wasn’t too fussed on battery life

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@miniforklift lol

Tomas5

@miniforklift well apple watch is great smartwatch and good sports watch too but battery life is joke not usable for all day hiking.

titus_fromnewtown

So upset with the latest news about Ambit/Traverse with no more possibility to edit/modify/create apps. I was really fan of my Ambit 3, and it is going to be a basic watch instead ot the best ever sport/adventure watch you could find !
Don’t think I’m going to purchase another Suunto if nothing is done to restore APPS edition/modification.

freeheeler

@titus_fromnewtown
what apps exactly do you miss?

MiniForklift

@tomas5 said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@miniforklift well apple watch is great smartwatch and good sports watch too but battery life is joke not usable for all day hiking.

I believe that was his primary sport

titus_fromnewtown

@freeheeler : all my private apps, with the possibility to modify some parameters of them (I had all my interval trainings with parametric settings)

Tetrix22222

@sebchastang unbelievable!

Tetrix22222

@titus_fromnewtown decapitating their own products, you can’t make this s*** up on a netflix script!

freeheeler

@tetrix22222
…and another post with constructive criticism

Bulkan

Ey great comments. If this carry on I think I will close this in 3,2…

Is not going anywhere these comments.

@titus_fromnewtown said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

So upset with the latest news about Ambit/Traverse with no more possibility to edit/modify/create apps. I was really fan of my Ambit 3, and it is going to be a basic watch instead ot the best ever sport/adventure watch you could find !
Don’t think I’m going to purchase another Suunto if nothing is done to restore APPS edition/modification.

the question is…if they do that modification, will you purchase another suunto (new model)?
If you do…it means that the new model already fit your needs…

MiniForklift

I was really pleased to see something very similar to this when I used ‘Snap To Route’ on a hilly run earlier this week, didn’t realise that screen was there

isazi

@miniforklift there is something like that in navigation (routes and snap to route). Suunto is aware that people want even more, your feedback (you as the forum) has been forwarded, and most field testers want more also.

Alexander Jerković

Personally, I am very disappointed with the attitude towards customers. Taking away the functionality of things we’ve already paid for is similar to stealing. If a new opaque and useless mobile app is already being introduced, forcing customers to switch to this scrapbook is the worst marketing move I’ve seen in the last few years. This means that suunto products lose some functionality after a while, even though we paid for it. I would never have bought a watch if I knew it would change the way I manage it. To force a client to use a method they don’t like is an extremely mean and unfair move. If a company thinks of retaining customers this way, it is honestly wrong. New forms and complex applications are just an additional burden for the user. It took me about half a day to change everything to a new environment and eventually found that they robbed me of most of the functionality. It’s like if parts fell out of my car while driving … I probably wouldn’t buy a car of the same brand
New things are supposed to be introduced to impress customers rather than disappoint them. However, if the gentlemen in marketing think that immediately after the loss of functionality I will throw the watch in the trash and buy a new one from the same manufacturer, they are deeply mistaken. I think most users have a similar mindset. It is a pity that such quality hardware suffers from the delusions of misguided marketing strategies.
Too bad

freeheeler

@alexander-jerković
have you heard about the financial situation at Suunto recently and know that people are actually working there who appreciate an income to feed their families and make them a living? i think this is only possible when you can sell something, unless you are rich, have endless money and your company strategy is charity.

what version of android or ios is running on your phone? please tell this also to any smartphone maker, too, because they steal from you, too.
apps aren’t supported in older os versions and make them partly useless, too.
be fair to Suunto, they want you to have a great watch and benefit from new awesome features, but they can not do this free of charge.

@alexander-jerković said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

Taking away the functionality of things we’ve already paid for is similar to stealing

A3P: we’ve partially lost the possibility to play with the apps. All the core things are still there.
MC: SA works well, very well.

Just out of curiosity what makes you so disappointed?

btw, I’m not a fan of any brand but I would buy the A3P again and again nowadays

sebchastang

@freeheeler I don’t want to be disrespectful and I appreciate your input on this forum but I think your answer is inappropriate. It is absolutely not about family living conditions.
Of course, people has to earn money to live decently. The point is about the loss of functionality. Suunto can of course sell newer products but what @alexander-jerković suggests is to keep functionality we paid for when we bought the watch. It doesn’t prevent Suunto to employ people and make them live.
Who talked about having new products or features for free? Nobody I guess. On the contrary I even had to buy a laptop since we cannot sync settings and routes with a mobile phone in 2022 (although it was possible few years ago with movescount app)

sebchastang

@g-q we lost the ability to create/modify Suunto apps
we lost important data logs generated by those apps
we lost ability to sync all settings/routes with a mobile phone. Maybe you always train around the place you are living in and always has access to a computer with SuuntoLink. How do you edit/sync settings and routes when you are exploring an other place in you country or elsewhere?