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    isazi Moderator @isazi
    last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 08:22

    @isazi fact is, why you and me as users may have different preferences, Suunto had to take decisions that work in the majority of cases.

    If the HR setting was remembered users will probably complain when they forget that the previous time they disabled it, and now they are mid run or whatever and registering no HR.
    So for Suunto is probably better to avoid this issue, than to avoid the less common issue of someone that really does not want HR.

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      Fenr1r @isazi
      last edited by Fenr1r 14 Mar 2021, 09:58

      @isazi There may well be fewer folk who don’t (usually) want HR but the consequences of unwanted recording can be more severe. If you miss turning on HR for an activity you will lose that stat but return with the rest. If you have it unwanted and unaware you may return with a dead battery and not much in the way of useful stats. Curtailed navigation, too.

      Both preferences could be served by a Default HR toggle in Personal settings.

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        DMytro @isazi
        last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 11:51

        @isazi well, why not? If you want a different target or S+, you would go to settings anyways. And for that seldom case of you keeping the target, you could save yourself time bc watch remembers it. Would maybe be nice if the watch could remember settings adaptively, like this low battery reminder. Like if you use a special target or S+ at a particular time of the week, you would get the settings changed automatically for that activity.

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          isazi Moderator @DMytro
          last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 14:21

          @дима-мельниченко IMHO it is because of the reason I explained, that is Suunto has to optimize for the average case, not for specific cases. So avoiding anything that could bother the user and change his/her data. Already lots of people complained that they had laps when they didn’t want them, because they did not realize that many S+ features are actually generating laps automatically 🙂

          So, for a company, it is better safe than sorry.

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            DMytro @isazi
            last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 14:36

            @isazi You’re probably right XD

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              isazi Moderator @DMytro
              last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 14:56

              @дима-мельниченко anyway setting default for customized sports mode in the app would probably be a good idea, given that the new modes are a complete creation of the user and there is no way Suunto can know better 🙂

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                freeheeler @isazi
                last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 15:04

                @isazi
                I think so, too.
                if we customize we mess up as much as we want anyway

                living sideways

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                  Bulkan Moderator
                  last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 16:38

                  The Suunto s9 doesn’t record RR intervals of HR, does it?

                  Is a feature I would like to have, to run in goldencheetah a python graphic which tells you where did you run respect the 0,75 DFA 1.

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                    freeheeler @Bulkan
                    last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 17:54

                    @bulkan
                    it only records IBI afaik

                    living sideways

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                      Łukasz Szmigiel @freeheeler
                      last edited by 14 Mar 2021, 18:24

                      @freeheeler you can get RR from IBI. Check runalyze and its data regarding HRV produced with Suunto watches.

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                        Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                        last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:45

                        @fenr1r I usually want HR. I just don’t usually want WRIST HR. I would absolutely love love love if the S9 watch remembered last saved options for each activity. EVERY time I start an run or bike activity I have to go in, disable wrist HR, connect to my HR belt and then start the activity. It would be a huge time saver / increase ease of use.
                        Same for Suunto+. I think it would make more sense for most users to just remember the last used option.
                        For the HR issue - I would argue having bad HR data from the wrist HR is a worse option than having no HR data.

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                          isazi Moderator @Jonathan Schwarz
                          last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:51

                          @jonathan-schwarz the external hr sensor has always higher priority than the internal one, so you don’t need to disable anything, if the external sensor is on and paired the S9 will use that, unless you disabled it in the sport.

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                            cosme.costa @Jonathan Schwarz
                            last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 05:53

                            @jonathan-schwarz said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                            @fenr1r I usually want HR. I just don’t usually want WRIST HR. I would absolutely love love love if the S9 watch remembered last saved options for each activity. EVERY time I start an run or bike activity I have to go in, disable wrist HR, connect to my HR belt and then start the activity. It would be a huge time saver / increase ease of use.
                            Same for Suunto+. I think it would make more sense for most users to just remember the last used option.
                            For the HR issue - I would argue having bad HR data from the wrist HR is a worse option than having no HR data.

                            You do not need to disable the OHR. If your chest strap or external OHR is connected when you start the activity, the watch will get the HR from the external HR device. The watch uses the OHR when it doesn’t detect a bluetooth HR device. You can see this, when you choose the activity, and you are waiting for GPS and HR you will see that the heart symbol have like a strap not a plain heart, besides there are no lights in the watch OHR.

                            What the watch can’t do is switch between externa or integrated HR during and activity.

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                              Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @cosme.costa
                              last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 06:06

                              @cosmecosta Oooh!! OMG I can’t believe this haha. Thank you so much. I didn’t know there was a difference in the HR icon between WHR and OHR.
                              Suunto should have a glossary of all the icons in the app/watch haha.

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                                Mff73 @Jonathan Schwarz
                                last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 06:50

                                @jonathan-schwarz said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                @cosmecosta Oooh!! OMG I can’t believe this haha. Thank you so much. I didn’t know there was a difference in the HR icon between WHR and OHR.
                                Suunto should have a glossary of all the icons in the app/watch haha.

                                maybe it already exists 😉 in the manual
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                                  surfboomerang @cosme.costa
                                  last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:02

                                  @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                  What the watch can’t do is switch between externa or integrated HR during and activity.

                                  Does someone know why? Occasionally it happened to me that during a race the strap sensor failed (bad battery). I would be nice if the OHR can function as backup during the activity.

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                                    isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
                                    last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:24

                                    @surfboomerang because it’s difficult and could lead to lots of problems. It would also use more battery.

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                                      A Former User @surfboomerang
                                      last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 07:30

                                      @surfboomerang said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                      It would be nice if the OHR can function as backup during the activity.

                                      What if connection is lost only temporary with the strap sensor? It’s a tough decision to make for a watch when to switch. 🙂

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                                        DMytro @Guest
                                        last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 09:01

                                        @andrasveres maybe it can display a warning message, like for lost gps connection. And then to give an option to switch to whr.

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                                          surfboomerang @DMytro
                                          last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 09:05

                                          @дима-мельниченко said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

                                          @andrasveres maybe it can display a warning message, like for lost gps connection. And then to give an option to switch to whr.

                                          Something like this.
                                          Same for GNSS settings. I you see that GPS is struggling during and activity it would be wonderful to change GNSS mode without quitting the activity first.

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